but (more) government promises to fix the problems that government created in the first place. (prime example, healthcare, which got the way it is because of the tax code, the great society programs, and regulation)
TK> Put the government in charge of the desert, and within 10 years you'll TK> have a shortage of sand.
` But many folks want them to manage our HEALTH CARE!!!
Cite? You either missed some critical detail or are just making it up.
LOL. Today's best battery technology is rather fickle about being treated correctly to get proper life. Now a lot of that can be idiot proofed out but some of it can't. Then there's your redneck racers and rice-boys out there who will do something they think will make their cars go faster and end up damaging the pack. They revert it and figure out a way to get back into the exchange program... guess what? you just drew the ricer battery pack and 15 miles later you're stuck on the side of the road and don't have a extension cord long enough.
No, that isn't the battery I was speaking of. When the GM - EV program was running the original company was developing a completely NEW battery. That's when Mobil and GM bought it out and CLOSED the operation. THAT battery will NEVER see the light of day.
Hate to tell you - it was GM and BIG OIL that ended the electric streetcars and Trolley Buses. The car makers have had the ability to make 60 MPG cars for decades. The car companies, tire companies, and oil companies have been sleeping together since Henry Ford was a KID.
Yeah right.
Mobil bought the company.
That's a new twist. The traditional story was it was GM alone in their effort to sell buses.
Oh they can go a lot higher than 60mpg, except the 'car' begins to look a lot like a bicycle.
Might do you some good to actually look into it. I heard these conspiracies that you are rattling off before and when I looked into them I found that oil companies and automakers don't get a long. If oil companies and automakers were in a conspiracy, why did the oil companies manipulate supply to the point where gasoline was over $4/gal and people stopped buying the former big three's most profitable vehicles? Kinda throws the monkey into the wrench for ya doesn't it?
Well, I'll await some actual cites.
I hate it when someone does the math...
And, you don't have your friend coo...er, KEEP *your* books, do you?!
No way.
How does one 'destroy' their competition? Either you have to buy them, which means you're already winning, or use government. If 'sales were slumping', and the market 'saturated' in the 1920s, and most trips were by rail, then the former seems unlikely.
Passenger rail was dying on its own by the 1950s. But in order to retain their freight services the rail companies were forced by government to maintain passenger service.
I don't doubt there were some instances where an auto company or an oil company used government to destroy a rail or street car or bus line, but ultimately then that problem is the state which prevents free market competition. Of the market choices that did exist people overwhelmingly chose the automobile.
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That seems to support my theory that the average American is getting dumber, not smarter.
Ah well, at least it will get easier to tax when all of the ill- educated Americans are on the gubment's payroll.
There sure are a lot of them around...
BTW, what makes you think she was pregnant?
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Why do you suppose Fat Boy likes Water Dogs?
If that belief makes you feel better. Give us YOUR version of what streetcars and trolley buses went away.
I decided not to respond to the theater of the ABSURD that the automobile was "NEW TECHNOLOGY" in the 1950's, I was laughing so hard I nearly pissed myself. The autombile was "NEW TECHNOLOGY" in the 1890's. Not
1959!
Why be bothered by FACTS? The guy has his own alternate reality.
How? You mount campaigns against them Such as planting FALSE news stories of the dangers from them. How the overhead electrical wirfes were making people "STERILE." You really are a horse's ass Brent. People took trains because the roads were poor. As bad as the rails were it was better. And going into the 50's automatic transmissions were rare and power brakes and steering even more rare. A drive from C hicaho to LA in a CAR could take
2 weeks. 1 week by train. When airplanes came in, hours. In a car you were DEAD by the time you got there.Apples and oranges. Passenger rail had airplanes to contend with and ANCIENT poorly maintained rails. Igt tooks a TRAIL a WEEK to get from Chicago to Los Angeles in 1957. It took an airplane 6 HOURS. PLUS with government subsidies a plane tickey cost HALF what it took to take the train. Given the deplorable condition of the rails, you were slapped around and bounced in the poorly air conditioned cars. Again VERY aged.
Maybe you need to look at the things GM did to the independent automakers. Hudson, Nash, Studebaker, Tucker, Packard, Kaiser, Willys, and others. Blocking access to steel. Tires. Machining equipment. The independents had to pay TWICE what GM did for steel WHEN they could get it. Not to mention constant litigation. Promoting labor problems.
TK> That seems to support my theory that the average American is getting TK> dumber, not smarter.
I have a theory on this. Every species DNA has a natural expiration date. The dinosaurs had theirs run out. With what I am seeing in people today, I think nature is telling us "TIME'S UP!!!!!"
That's why I believe that the Human DNA sequence has reached its expiration date.
Cheaper to maintain a rubber-tired gas/diesel engine bus than tracks/wires all over the place. It ain't rocket science.
--Vic
Edison did that sort of thing with AC too... Didn't help his DC systems much in the long run.
I see that you've run out of material so now you're just making stuff up and name calling. Cute. Why don't you go back to your 20 year flame war?
LOL. talk about creating your own reality. ATs were rare in the 1940s, not the 1950s. Here:
Flying was expensive in the 1950s. Ordinary people did not fly and it didn't cost less than a train ride then. Government subsidy is going to trains today.
So now you're saying tire,steel,and machine tool companies refused to sell their goods to help GM... I'd like to see that proof. For steel anyway you're probably neglecting this:
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