Is Mobile 1 oil worth the money??

I use Mobile 1 oil (synthetic) for my two cars. Can't tell it is better oil than cheaper such as Quaker State or oil from Canadian Tire. Independent studies are controversy so depend who you ask, Quaker State is better or Mobile or Amsoil. I think they 're all good except Canadian Tire oil simply because you don't know what you are buying. Better gas mileage? Use 5W30 if you want to improve your gas mileage or reduce vehicle weight. Proper tires air pressure and drive slow. Time between oil change? There is no diff. between oil change interval whether you are using expensive oil or cheap oil. Pretty much all oils sold today will last more than 3000 Km or more. May be you should consider using better oil filter if you are planning to extend your oil change interval for a bit more.

Lets get this straight here but first let me do some calculating. SUV+8 QTS Oil = BIG A$$ engine= Gas Guzzler tax to buy=LOW MPG=BIG $ to buy in the first place=High income as to which $ doesn't matter . Now for the questions

1 ) Is Mobil 1 worth the $ ? What matters if you had the $ to spend on the $40,000 SUV ? 2) Better gas mileage ? Back to answer 1 3) How much further between oil changes ? Your oil change sticker will tell you after you get done getting it changed at the lube shop that you always take it to. You don't change your own oil do you ? Iowa883

Okay! so you have issue with SUV owner! Are all SUV owners have money to spare? May be it is an old SUV What about minivan owner?. Lets not get into personal attack here in the news group.

conventional

Here you go, I will help you out in your message with proper English .

Okay ! So you have "an" issue with a SUV owner ! "Do" all SUV owners have money to spare ? "Maybe" it is an old SUV. What about "a" minivan owner ? "Let's" not get into "a" personal attack in the "newsgroup".

Ok, now I understand your reply.

I am not getting into a personal attack to start off with, as I own an SUV myself. People just have a misunderstanding of what a SUV is for. They do not get great gas mileage, if you get 20 MPG you are VERY lucky . SUV's get usually between 12-18 mpg on the average. So, you will have to sacrifice MPG for the "fun" part of which an SUV is designed.

Another option that I choose, is to change my own oil but I am in the 5 % that still does this on my own. So, as my assumption as far as statistics . I will guess that the poster whom started the thread , takes it somewhere to get it changed. If, not I apologize .

Iowa883

"Perhaps" is a better use of English.

"The" would be better here.

"Let's" not get into "a" personal attack in

Any measurable decrease in fuel consumption is likely to be due to a lower viscosity than previously used. At normal oil change intervals the use of Mobil1 is unlikely to make economic sense. If the owner tends towards the neglectful or forgetful however, then M1 is likely to pay its way. ISTM though that a person who makes a conscious choice to use a quality synthetic in an engine that does not call for it, is unlikely to be neglectful. He might be forgetful I suppose.

Huw

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Granted, this is a comparison between synthetics, but they've been sent a sample of Mobil 1 for analysis every 1000 miles, and ran it 'till the bitter end. I think they got 12,000 miles before they had to change the filter, and then got to 18,000 before they actually changed the oil.

Don't know if synthetic is that much better than dino juice, but according to this study, 3000 miles on Mobil 1 is total overkill.

Forgot to mention, yes, I run Mobil 1, mainly because I drive 2000-3000 miles a month, the slight initial price premium is worth it so I don't have to change my oil every 4-5 weeks.

i just tore down my 289 from my mustang and the bearings still look great, the cylinders still have cross hatch. i run whatever oil is on sale and fram filters. this motor has 200,000 plus mile on it since i rebuilt it 16 years ago. in my opinion synthetic is not worth it. Chip

It's worth it if you want the same results without changing the oil and filter as frequently. Dino oil and fram filters I am sure work great if changed frequently enough. Better filters and better oil result in less work. Depends on your cost to time ratio I suppose.

I'd go nuts if I had to an oil change every 3,000 miles... It's worth the money to use mobil 1 and not worry about the frequent changes to avoid sludge, etc...

I've never heard of Mobile 1. Is it made in a city in Alabama?

The only way to know if synthetic oil is better is by having used synthetic and conventional oils from your engine analyzed several times. You'll have to alternate between the 2 types and not simply run conventional several times in a row and then synthetic several times.

Mobil will tell you that their Mobil 1 will improve your gas mileage "not one bit." 1-800-ASK-MOBIL

Mobil has recommended leaving Mobil 1 in the crankcase for the longest change interval allowed by the vehicle manufacturer, regardless of use conditions.

Below is something from an old BBS or Usenet message on the subject:

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All Synthetic Oil auto

The following is quoted from Mobil Oil's fact sheet about its Mobil 1 synthetic oils. Call 1-800-ASK-MOBIL for more information.

Q: HOW OFTEN SHOULD I CHANGE OIL WHEN USING MOBIL 1?

A: A number of factors influence oil change frequency, including your driving habits, typical road conditions and environmental conditions. We recommend that you follow the oil and filter change frequencies shown in your owner's manual, especially during the warranty period. The excellent protection you get from Mobil 1 gives you the confidence to go the full length of the mileage or time frame recommended for changes by the manufacturer.

Q: WHY DOESN'T MOBIL CLAIM 25,000 MILE DRAIN INTERVALS ANY MORE?

A: Each auto manufacturer develops and specifies oil and filter requirements for their vehicles. Mobil respects their oil drain recommendations and does not want to put the consumer in a position that is in conflict with the auto manufacturer recommendations. While Mobil 1 has given excellent results in extended oil drain tests, we prefer to remain conservative with our oil drain recommendations. We recommend that you can go all the way to the maximum mileage or time shown in your owner's manual for oil changes when using Mobil 1.

This allows the reserve protection capabilities of Mobil 1 to cover unusual or unexpected driving conditions.

Q: WHAT VISCOSITY GRADE SHOULD I USE? WILL A HIGHER VISCOSITY GRADE (15W-50) PROVIDE BETTER PROTECTION?

A: Mobil recommends that you follow your engine manufacturer's recommendations as indicated in the owner's manual. For maximum wear protection and maximum fuel economy, use the lightest oil viscosity that is recommended by the engine manufacturer for the temperature range expected. Heavier oils lower fuel economy and rob horsepower. For normal driving conditions, 5W-30 and 10W-30 are the primary current recommendations of automotive manufacturers.

Q: DO I NEED TO FLUSH MY ENGINE BEFORE CONVERTING TO MOBIL 1?

A: No. There is no special preparation necessary when converting from conventional oil to Mobil 1. In fact, Mobil 1 is compatible with conventional oil should it be necessary to mix the two. However, the superior performance characteristics of Mobil 1 will be reduced by diluting it with conventional oil.

Mixing different types of synthetic oils is not recommended since different oils may be composed of different types of synthetic stocks. Change the oil and filter before changing from another synthetic oil to Mobil 1.

Q: WHEN CAN I START USING MOBIL 1? CAN MOBIL 1 BE USED IN AN OLDER VEHICLE?

A: You can start using Mobil 1 in new vehicles at any time. In fact, Mobil 1 is the factory fill for the Corvette LT-1 and LT-5 engines. One of the myths that persists about Mobil 1 is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. Current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As the decision by the engineers who design the Corvette engine indicates, Mobil 1 can be used in an engine from the day you drive the car off the showroom floor.

Mobil 1 can be used in older vehicles with high mileage on them. However, in older vehicles, if there is a problem with oil consumption or leakage, it may not be economically wise to convert it to Mobil 1 until such mechanical problems have been corrected.

Q: WILL THE USE OF MOBIL 1 VOID MY NEW CAR WARRANTY?

A: Absolutely not. Mobil 1 exceeds the API engine oil service requirements of all new car manufacturers. This includes both American and foreign-made autos. The only exception to this is the Mazda RX-7 rotary engine which recommends against using any synthetic oil.

Q: CAN I OR SHOULD I USE ADDITIVE SUPPLEMENTS AND/OR ENGINE TREATMENTS WITH MOBIL 1?

A: We DO NOT recommend the use of any additive supplements or engine treatments with Mobil 1. Mobil 1 has been formulated to greatly exceed the most severe industry and engine manufacturers' requirements. Using additive supplements will not improve the long-term performance of Mobil 1, and our tests indicated that use may actually degrade product performance. The American Petroleum Institute (API) and American Automobile Manufacturers Association (AAMA) have stated that "certified oils eliminate the need for supplemental engine oil additives."

Tests have shown that some additive supplements may significantly alter the performance and properties of any lubricant. In several cases, additive supplements have been detrimental to viscosity, storage stability and reduced protection against the formation of deposits.

Why don't you get off your high horse worry about your own grammar problems.

Why don't you post under the user name "news" like the last time you posted to this thread ?

BTW Your reply below needs some corrections but we won't go there.

Where do you live ?

How cold does it get ?

How often do you change your oil ?

It's hard to say.

Unless you can find someone who has experienced an engine failure directly attributed to conventional oil and an engine survival under absolutely identical conditions with synthetic oil (you won't), I don't thing the question can be answered with certainty.

The only difference I have observed in practice is that Mobil 1 is highly detergent. It will definitely clean out an older engine.

You won't be able to tell any difference.

Check your owner's manual. Both my Nissans and my Hondas state that synthetic oils can be used (as long as it meets the specifications listed), but they both explicitly state that change intervals cannot be lengthened.

So, if you are still under warranty, you can't go any farther between changes.

Mobile1 is better than the conventional non-synthetic, however I know that it comes short of what the Amsoil (Ah, shucks, may as well say it)100% synthetic brand we see promoted here. The real question has to be answered, "Is Amsoil Worth The Money?" Does Mobile1 have a "European Synthetic", ie. 5W-40 that meets or exceeds the more stringent peramiters, as required by the European regulators? RH.

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Well, yeah, actually. 0W-40 . ACEA A/B3, MB229.1, 229.3 BMW LL, etc.

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Yes, mobil 1 in Europe is different from the US Mobil 1.

I'm using Mobil 1 5W-50 in my Pantera, and there is also a

0W-40 Mobil 1 and a 5W-40.

I could unfortunately not find any product description in english, but these german pages (I assume you don't want them in Swedish ;-) mentions the specifications:

Thomas

i changed my oil every 6000 miles. once in a while longer. just one persons experience though. Chip