'list' of standard times for repair

That site has value for estimating parts and labor costs for only some repairs, it is ridiculously far off and worthlessly misleading on many others. Perhaps it's a work in progress and will improve.

Or - "Of many, one."

Hardly.

He wrote: " You are incorrect unless you mean a non standard "customer pay" operation, such as electrical system diagnosis and repair. "

My response: "E pluribus unum" meant that his electrically based reply was only 'one of many' examples that fit the category of procedures not necessarily accounted for by flat rate times.

Why is and how could something so easily understandable, particularly in context, be so difficult for some of you?!

Book times for a 2004 Sonata with the V-6

Plugs - 3.2 hours. (reason is that you basically have to pull the intake system off to get to the rear plugs, same with many newer engines) Front struts - 1.2 hours each side. (includes toe adjustment)

On the rear struts the time for BOTH is the same as the time for ONE front strut. 1.2 hours. So the labor would be doubled.

Same here. Hours I posted match up as well.

I know with late '80's A-bodys (Celebrity, Century, Ciera, etc.) you could disconnect the dog bone from the rad frame and roll the engine forward a bit to get at the rear bank. One minute, but I didn't bother after doing it once because it didn't even buy the minute back. You just needed the right wrenches and patience. I had an '85 Cav 2.0 4-cyl. Had to disconnect the motor mount and jack the engine up a bit to get at one water pump bolt. Always thought the 6 was too big for the Cav engine bay. Looked real tight. Corsica engine bay seemed to be a little bigger.

"Gene" wrote in news:kcheah$k0n$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

But "one of many" is not how the Latin translates.

You're trying to say, "just one part out of many parts", while the Latin translates as "a whole made up of many parts", which is completely different.

Good catch. I was thinking book hours and wrote "flat rate". I did not even notice that until you mentioned it. No wonder I confused everyone.

Imagine my amusement in being "corrected" by a grease monkey cum linguist who was initially so thoroughly flummoxed by the obvious implication of a perfectly appropriately applied latin phrase, which, when spoonfed to him, then believed could only have but the singular meaning given it by a nation as its motto (Hint: Quo Vadis isn't solely the name of a movie). Kindly allow me to express my deepest appreciation and heartfelt thanx to you, Dr. Chomsky for, at long last, showing me the error in my ways and approach.

You can't teach what you don't know, you can't lead where you won't go.

Tegger had it.

Unum is the nominative-case subject ( implicit verb). Pluribus is part of a prepositional phrase hence the ablative word ending. From many, [it is] one.

Moe makes the motion, Curley, the bicycle thief, seconds it. Please stop, I can't catch my breath.

disingenuous idiot.

Goes without saying, although I couldn't agree more.