Re: New car / mileage

Dealers are no more honest now with digital speedometers than they

> ever were and the crooks will still play games.

I'd like to insert my 2 cents' worth here. Since we all have opinions, we can disagree & still be friends. One reason I think dealers are "more nearly honest" with the digital odometers is that it takes high-tech equipment to alter the digital ones, or so I'm told. Almost any mechanic, even with limited experience, used to be able to remove analog speeedos and "cut 'em". Took only a few dollars' worth of hand tools and anywhere from a half-hour up to several hours, I've been told. I'd imagine that now, it'd take a high-dollar piece of high-tech equipment to produce the same results. Just from hearsay, I understand the equipment needed is so expensive that there are only a handful of "cutters" for hire. And when one is hired, he charges such an exhorbitant price--like $300 for about 5 minutes' work. Yep, as I'm told, he just plugs into the aldl socket under the dash and presses a button or 2 & makes it read what you ask. Another thing, the fines and jailtime got to be so great, that dealers shy away from it--news travels fast, & when they began sentencing with time instead of $, suddenly the taste changed. Digressing a tad more, since the cutting became less prevalent, suddenly more cars started showing up on the used market, consumers had no choice but to buy cars showing higher miles. Found out pretty soon they were the same cars they'd been buying for years that once showed low miles, but now showed truer, higher numbers. Found out that cars would run many more miles than previously was thought. Now, dealers didn't have to cut 'em to be competitive. OK, I'll admit that the new scene made it more profitable than ever to show up with that unusual car reading low numbers; but that jail time still affected the already lucrative used car business, and lessened the wholesale practice of cutting everything that came thru the pipe. Enter the original buyer--and even more esp. the guy who leased his car--and the Fed. Buyer's Odometer Statements. Suddenly, it became the buyer's (leasor's?) playing field, as he was now the only one who could cut 'em and get away with it. Too many paper trails after he had traded it to a dealer! So, the individuals profited from higher trade-in values on used cars and from by-passing the heavy penalty they used to pay for driving over the limit on their leased cars. Enter Chrysler's (and probably the other mfg's. also by now) leading edge technology in their models with analog-computer hybrids. Now, the old-timey methods of cutting 'em with handtools still worked. But!!! When Chrysler dealerships hooked their diagnostic equipment to the aldl socket, it read the true numbers recorded on the on-board computers' harddrives. Now, even the original buyers began feeling the hot waters of fines of dollars and jail time. Overall, I feel sure that more and more dealers are displaying vehicles with what they believe to be true miles. I'd venture a supposition that TODAY the biggest % of cutters are, by far, the individuals, rather than the dealers! The practice was wrong. Sounds like I was a dealer, doesn't it? But, I'm not advocating promoting the practice; and neither am I attempting to make us (me included) individuals look worse than the dealers (once included me, also)--or vice versa. Like I began, my 2 cents' worth------and often worth every dime! sdlomi2

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