Re: What car would you consider, part two

Came to a screeching halt at a Honda dealer today. Now, they had quite a

> selection of $32-36,000 Crosstours there, but what caught my eye was > >
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> > The Honda CR-Z. Only available as a Hybrid, but the electrics can be > turned off with a button that says "Sport Mode' where it runs on gass > only.

I toyed with that car yesterday a bit.

No, the electrics aren't turned off. Who told you that? A car salesman, no doubt. What did he sell last week? Toilet paper? No worries; he'll be selling batteries at Radio Shack next week.

Paddle shifters on the steering wheel.

For the CVT, yes. Fake gear shifts. On the other hand, since the gear selector has only one forward choice--"D"--I figure the paddle shifters can be good for engine braking on mountains. Come on, Honda--no L? Pinching pennies again? I suppose they think their "fuzzy logic" for the tranny will suffice for "gearing" down on the mountains.

And, it fit like a glove! Seating postition was absoultely PERFECT for me. > They had a black one that was SHARP for$22700. > > Almost like sitting in the Hachiroku...

Take it out, see what you think of SPORT mode.

Trust me, SPORT mode does nothing but goose the IMA and run out the batteries faster. The engine is still the gutless wonder down at the low end. That's what hybrids are.

Most importantly (to Honda, that is) is that it has an AT-PZEV rating, the only one on the market. That's Advanced Technology/Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle. The true goal of this vehicle is to cut emissions, not to have great gas mileage (which it doesn't, not for a small, lighter weight, 2 seat hybrid).

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Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote in news:i70tm9$au6$ snipped-for-privacy@tioat.net:

Paddle shifters are pointless for anything but on a road course

It looks like a CRX that's pregnaut to me.

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chuckcar

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote in news:i71ai2$e9k$ snipped-for-privacy@tioat.net:

The S2000 is better IMHO, same with the NSX. Shame they're no longer being built, but they're not too long ago. I don't know from it, but I guess the MR2 was underpowered?

There *is* a wiki entry for the CRZ BTW.

Only 122 HP, maximum engine speed seems to be 6,000 RPM. 4 valves per cylinder though (so only 16 total). I'm certainly not impressed. Hardly what *anyone* would call a sports car, even if it somehow managed to turn at 2gs. The problem is that it makes 59 Miles per gallon. You can't have both.

That is *not* a fat astronaut I was talking about above, there's an infinitely thin invisible "n" in that word. Seriously .

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chuckcar

Weren't you recently talking about altering the steering column in one of your cars because you forgot to sit in the car before buying it, and didn't know it was uncomfortable? Maybe you should focus more on that than on gadgets.

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JoeSpareBedroom

How did you miss that trivial item in the car you were talking about dissecting?

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JoeSpareBedroom

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote in news:i71dvs$f2f$ snipped-for-privacy@tioat.net:

I stand improved in my humor. BTW I've heard that neither NASA nor the russian space agency will confirm or deny whether sex in orbit has happened, but surely it would have had an audience.

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chuckcar

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote in news:i72u3o$sbk$ snipped-for-privacy@tioat.net:

It would suck if the kid were brought anywhere near to term in space. The kid wouldn't have the bone structure to survive on earth.

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chuckcar

Really? Evidence, please. Bones don't do a lot of weight-bearing on earth before birth, either. I know of no evidence that suggests weightless would be a problem for prenatal development (although morning sickness would be a problem if either of the parents suffers from it - yeah, sometimes dads get it too).

Jeff

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dr_jeff

dr_jeff wrote in news:V56dney8EOpBjAjRnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Why do you think astronauts spend so much of their time exercising? People lose bone mass constantly while they're in space. That's the biggest single problem there is up there (aside from losing muscle mass as well that is).

This has been known about since the first Russian space station. It's hardly breaking news.

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chuckcar

So, you not only have a problem with women but you also have a problem with pregnant ones?

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pandora

Bone loss in space is due to not stressing the bones by carrying around weight on them. Can't see how that would have any bearing on bone development in a fetus.

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E. Meyer

Where's part one?

Is the header another way of saying "what's the best car?"

Do we get to choose our own parameters?

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tnom

"E. Meyer" wrote in news:C8BCC5CE.20F75% snipped-for-privacy@msn.com:

Gravity never goes away on earth. Even in water.

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chuckcar

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hypothesizes that fetal movement is necessary for fetal bone development.

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Ron Peterson

A few things - the abstract is a hypothesis, i.e. not proven; it does not address what might happen if pregnant in a condition of weightlessness, simply attempts to make a connection between parental immobility during pregnancy and brittle bones in the baby. Parental immobility is different from parental bone loss due to the effects of space.

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E. Meyer

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