Vehicle Speed Sensor Broken, then fixed, and now very sporadic...please help!

Recently while driving on the interstate my speedometer in my 99 Mercury Cougar dropped to zero and my transmission immediately down- shifted. At first I had no idea what happened, but after hooking-up a generic code reader to my car I received the P0500 error code telling me that my vehicle speed sensor had malfunctioned. I went to a local shop and paid ~$100 to have them put in a new speed sensor. At first it appeared to work perfectly and I thought my problem was solved, but later on that day my speedometer once again dropped to zero and my transmission had trouble shifting from 1st to 2nd and would never go into 4th gear. After this happened, I thought that there was something in my transmission that was actually breaking my speed sensor and that would be where I needed to start looking. A few days ago, however, my speedometer miraculously started working again and my transmission would shift. This went on for almost an entire day and I thought that my car was magically fixed...this was not the case. Currently, my speedometer will work about 1/4 of the time and when it is not working, my car will not shift correctly. Even when my speedometer is working somewhat, when I am not accelerating my speedo will drop to zero and my car will downshift...I really have no idea what is going on. So here is my question: What else could cause my speedometer not to work and my car to have trouble shifting if I just replaced my vehicle speed sensor (output transmission sensor)? Should I have the wiring checked, or is there something else that could be causing this. Please help as I am tired of driving in first gear and getting terrible gas mileage...and I'm sure my transmission cannot take it much longer. Thanks for the help.

Reply to
cmoney-law
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Short in the wiring or a break in the wire. Could also be a poor ground to the engine/trans. Also check the connector itself, just a little crud will cause problems.

It is likely the problem that caused the original problem. FYI NEVER assume that ANY error code actually shows a bad part.

Reply to
Steve W.

Just because a sensor is new doesn't mean a sensor is good. They sell an awful lot of cheap crap out there these days. If it isn't the sensor itself wiring would be my next best guess. Could be as simple as corrosion in the connector for the sensor.

Steve B.

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Steve B.

The good thing is that you have solid and repeatable symptoms. From a quick glance at your wiring (I chose 2.5 liter engine, might make a difference if I guessed wrong), the PCM and HEC (instrument computer) both receive the same paralleled VSS signal wire input. There may be more computers that use a branch off of this circuit, but it would take a complete system diagram (don't have one) or a lot of time (don't have that either) to see every device served by this signal wire.

My point here is that you can tell from the schematic, the assumption that two different VSSs couldn't cause the same problem, and the symptoms that you are either:

1) losing B+ at the VSS

2) losing ground at the VSS

3) losing signal continuity at the VSS

4) shorting the signal wire, most likely inside a companion computer

The first three of these possibilities could be tested with a multichannel scope and a test drive. You know that the best test point is right at the VSS harness, so start there. If a B+ or ground abnormality coincides with speedo dropout/trans downshifting, then bingo. If the signal wire drops to ground during the failure event, then it is either opening somewhere or being shorted to ground (you must be moving to see a fluctuating square wave pattern on the signal wire). Then procede to some sort of powered or ohmmeter wiggle test method of the signal wire in the shop. If the electrical open doesn't reoccur using the wiggle method, I would suggest that one of the computers is grounding the signal wire intermittently. Take note whether the problem occurs mostly over bumps, what speeds, wet out or dry, anything that might help narrow down a plausible cause for this intermittent behavior.

Sometimes a set of symptoms in a specific car/engine combination are the result of a high failure rate of one component; IOW if you ask the right guy, he'll know right away where to start looking to save time. This may be the case but I have not heard of anything specific to your vehicle.

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Reply to
Comboverfish

Thanks for all the help...hopefully I can get this taken care of by a shop that knows what they are doing...thanks again!

Reply to
cmoney-law

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