Fords profit!

Top 10 means nothing to me. If you take out the trucks. I cannot count trucks as best selling vehicles because most of them are sold to people who use them for work. If you take out the truck, then Ford's best selling vehicle "the Taurus" loses out to Chevy, Toyota, and Honda about 300,000 to

3 million. Sure 300 thousand Taruases sell a year, but thats an extremely low number, and being in the top 10 does not necessarily yell "defeat."

Indeed, and thats the way they need to go.

So you think it is acceptable to have to take your car into the shop to get major repairs under 30 thousand miles?

Right... let's not talk highway miles. Most people arent driving between boston and new york or dallas and houston, or la and sandiego... They are in the city in stop and go!

So only ugly people worry about the way they dress right? Sorry... I have never seen a hot person in a ugly POS.

I would rather be called by my car company and told "we need to replace this piece for safety" than flip my car on the road because a company was trying to cover up its contrators tire issues... cough cough ford cough cough...

This was the last major study in 2005 and 2006...

I exclude trucks from any list because trucks are often sold to companies and people who use them for work. I do not classify them with those of the average family trying to save on gasoline. Clearly, Honday, Chevy, Toyota, Nissan are the cars of choice... before Ford..

and being at the bottom of the top 10 list is not something to brag about.

1.. Ford F-Series (includes F-150, F-250 Super Duty and F-350 Super Duty) - 901,463 2.. Chevrolet Silverado (includes 1500, 1500 Classic, 1500 SS, 1500 SS Classic, 1500HD, 1500HD Classic, 2500HD, 2500HD Classic, 3500, 3500 Classic) - 705,891 3.. Toyota Camry, Camry Hybrid and Camry Solara - 433,703 4.. Dodge Ram (includes 1500, 1500 SRT-10, 2500 and 3500) - 400,453 5.. Honda Accord - 369,293 6.. Honda Civic - 308,415 7.. Nissan Altima - 255,371 8.. Chevrolet Impala - 246,481 9.. Chevrolet Malibu - 245,861 10.. Chevrolet TrailBlazer and TrailBlazer EXT - 244,150

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1.. Ford F-Series pickup 2.. Chevrolet Silverado pickup 3.. Toyota Camry convertible, coupe and sedan 4.. Toyota Corolla sedan 5.. Honda Accord coupe and sedan 6.. Dodge Ram pickup 7.. Honda Civic coupe and sedan 8.. Chevrolet Impala sedan 9.. Chevrolet Cobalt coupe and sedan 10.. Nissan Altima sedan

SUV's are not a major market anymore. They do sell fine and no one doubts that Ford makes a fine looking SUV.

Truck sales

Trucks at Dodge and Ford are the number 1 vehicle sales for a simple reason. Every city in the USA and beyond purchases them for city usage, and almost every major and even minor company in the USA purchases anywhere from 1 to

500 for company usage.

Except that the f150, f250 and f350 are always used as work trucks by companies and cities...

I am not even talking global warming here. I am talking fuel consumption for the basic family...

"Go Mavz" ...

EXACTLY

Natalie

At least Toyota admits when problems exist and works to fix them, unlike the big 3. If the big 3 were as committed to quality as Toyota is, the list of necessary recalls they would have to make would be endless.

It's chilling to think what things are/were wrong with domestic cars, that the public haven't found yet.

Natalie

Really? Most people use them to go to work, the store, and sometimes Home Depot. I doubt most trucks are sold to companies or people who use the for work.

I already took out the trucks. That is why i said "top 10 best selling

*CARS*."

Actually, the Focus and the Fusion are Ford two best selling cars. The

500 wasn't one of the top 10. And the Taurus was a top 10 car in large part because of fleet sales.

All I was suggesting is that there are some people who like them. I never said anything about defeat.

I don't know why the Explorer was in the shop. And, it was probably taken care of by the warranty. I never said it was acceptable.

Last time I drove, I saw lots of people driving at highway speeds on the highway. I would suspect that most people average someplace between the city and highway mileage.

Hummer, GMC, Chevy and Saturn all sell more trucks than cars, too. (Of course, Hummer and GMC don't sell cars....)

Jeff

I never said anything about who needs a truck (including SUVs).

Never suggested it does. Only that Ford and Toyota don't determine which vehicles their costumers buy.

I used nine vehicles today. All driven by electric motors. The motors that drove two of the cars were driven a generator driven in turn by a diesel engine. The other seven all ran on electricity from the local utility. If you haven't guessed it yet, the diesel-electric hybrids were deisel-electric trains. The other ones were all PATH or NYC subways. I can get away without owning any vehicle.

Exactly.

Cathy

Living in a metropolitan area in Texas... I see more of them wracked up for work than for play. Mind you, I live in rather influential area where people can afford the gas cost.

Off topic, has anyone noticed police departments starting to turn away from the crown victoria? I have noticed the Plano police slowly changing to new Dodges.

It is hard to come to conclusions about average consumer behavior from rich people in Texas.

Gee, I wasn't surprised, because I thought Ford doesn't sell Crown Vics, Towncars or Grand Marquises at all. However, they do sell all those cars for fleet sales, including the Police CV Interceptor. And the GM and Towncar to the general public. Gee, I was wrong.

The Dodge Charger is way cool, especially with police paint. I also see a lot of SUV police vehicles and a few pickups and medium duty trucks (the trucks are also used for parking enforcement, hauling stuff, like barricades for parades and towing vehicles).

Jeff

Bullshit.

Okay it is BS... but his statement was BS too...

If Alan Mulally the new CEO from Boeing is given a chance with implementing the lean principles Ford may well surprise some folks with an increase in quality and with profits.

Just my 2 cents worth

Me thinks you may see them go back to the Interceptor, if the experience of others is a criteria. Many departments shifted to Dodge FWD and Chevy FWD certified police cars, that were not need for pursuit duty, because they were around $2,000 less to purchase and better on fuel. Over time however the higher maintenance and insurance costs of FWD cars used up any anticipated savings.

Departments that have been buying the RWD Dodge like the stronger engine, but officers complain there is not enough room in the trunk for their equipment or in the back seat for suspects. Many are going back to the Interceptor as well, and using the others for investigative type work. The Philadelphia city Police had to replace hundreds of new RWD Dodge cars because the electronics are not compatible with the police electronic speed tracking system.

The Pennsylvania State Police uses only the Interceptor for marked patrol vehicles. The FWD Impalas they have are restricted to ten miles over the posted speed limit because several troopers where killed in FWD cars while in pursuit, on wet and winter roads a number of years ago, when the PSP used unmarked FWD cars given to them by the feds for use in the "55 Alive" program.

One of my youngsters is a Sergeant in the PSP, a job that rates an unmarked state car. When transferred the Pa Turnpike last year, where pursuit may be required, the Impala was replaced with an unmarked Interceptor.

mike