Hyudai Sales Person..

I've found that very few salespeople are knowledgeable about the technical aspects of the products they sell. What the salesperson should have done is say that he would find the answers.

If you're curious, you can find the answer to the timing belt/chain question by looking at the maintenance schedule, and the answer to the weight question will be in the specifications section of the manual. Gross vehicle weight will be on the manufacturer's plate on the door jamb.

A Hummer H1 weighs around 6,800 lbs

DUH slogan... very funny. Yes I would agree a tiny bit of knowledge would be nice. I think sales guys even have special training on new vehicles. A friend of mine who sells Toyota in North Jersey was once in a Tundra seminar when they were new.

Anyway, even before I test drive a vehicle I already do some research and dont rely on tech info from the sales guy. But nevertheless I like to hear what he has to say about the vehicle. My test drive just boils down on how the car feels when I'm driving it.

My point is more what are they thinking as sales people. Do they have any pride? As a former automotive technician, I often know the answer to the questions I ask a car sales person b4 I ask it.I just ask to see of what value (if any) they can be to me.

And as a current sales person myself (insurance), I am embarrased for many of them. It would be better for car companys to have a computer terminal in their lobby that can scan my insurance and license and allow me to check out a car (for a test run) and look up specs on it than to have sales people who don't care about their craft..or who refuse to bring any effort or homework to the transaction..

I guess it's coming to that with much of the internet buying that is going on. OTOH, I did speak to a toyota salesperson recently (20 year rep) who did know the value of a J vin number and could recite different specs..But it is ever so rare to find.

Maybe the Sonata is denser. ;)

Or maybe the salesperson that Charles met is denser...

You don't understand. Their goal is to get your signature on the order, period.

Fact is, in this day and age, they are dinosaurs. You can hit a web site and have the car delivered, you hand over a check or sign some papers, and that's it. No actual salesman involved. You've already done all the legwork and know exactly what you want; at this point, anyone else you deal with is nothing more than an order taker.

The age of the car salesman is coming to a close.

Unfortunately, this is not true. As long as the average intelligence of car buyers (and everybody else) is as low as it currently seems to be, there'll be car salesmen who can tell lies, obfuscate the facts on every single aspect of the vehicles they sell, and hornswoggle customers in every possible way. If you think there aren't folks who have no idea of what they're buying and what they're paying for it, think again. Many people will sign blank orders based on the salesman telling them "just sign it, we'll fill it in at the credit office", can't tell you whether they bought a four or six cylinder automobile, have not a clue how much interest they pay on their loan, etc. As long as such customers exist, so the salesmen will exist.

Re: Hyudai Sales Person.. Group: alt.autos.toyota Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2008, 10:44am (EDT-3) From: snipped-for-privacy@dslextreme.com (mack)

Unfortunately, this is not true. As long as the average intelligence of car buyers (and everybody else) is as low as it currently seems to be, there'll be car salesmen who can tell lies, obfuscate the facts on every single aspect of the vehicles they sell, and hornswoggle customers in every possible way. If you think there aren't folks who have no idea of what they're buying and what they're paying for it, think again. =A0 Many people will sign blank orders based on the salesman telling them "just sign it, we'll fill it in at the credit office", can't tell you whether they bought a four or six cylinder automobile, have not a clue how much interest they pay on their loan, etc. As long as such customers exist, so the salesmen will exist.

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Sadly, I think this is more like it. People are sheep. Today I went to the same dealership and checked out a mazda 6. I'm looking at everything lately. My camry has 137k miles. I guess it's just a reflex. I say that because I think I could slap on 4 new struts and get another 100k comfortable miles..

The mazda sales guy was just as bad as the arab.

Me-How many gallon tank in this 6.?

Him -20

Me-Does it have a timing chain or a belt?

Him - a belt ...they are all going that way now..

(Lmao)

He volunteered that he has been selling cars for 7 months . B4 that he said he was a MORTGAGE BROKER..!

That would be the last thing I'd tell people..

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Quoting your words" the AVERAGE INTELLIGENCE of car buyers (and EVERYBODY ELSE) is AS LOW as it currently seems to be....{

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it must be true