Losing control of the fuel efficiency debate

Excellent.

Now there is a dreamy, pulled from the sky number.

Sounds good, lets demand that automakers DOUBLE the mpg they get!

Somebody just needs to tell her never held a job, doesn't know anything about chemistry or mechanics, liberal, educated idiot ass that this just can't be done.

Is that 55 number for all models from a manufacturer? Or, is it an average to be reached for an entire model line?

She's an idiot, period. And another political hack who prefaces her "save the world" facade with phrases like, "We need to ."

Needs. Never solutions.

This is common, however, to set goals that seem impossible, but timespans that leave no one remembering how all this crap got started.

IF we could average 55 mpg, that would be superb...And we will never do it unless goals are set and results demanded. (No, I dont think it is possible by todays standards, but who knows??)

It would have to be the latter. 55 mpg is never going to happen for pickups. I can imagine trying to tow a boat with a 55 mpg truck.

Right.

20 years ago, nobody new 5th graders would be using mobile phones and exchanging SMS while listening to MP3s players the size of my thumb. 5 years ago there were no Iphones that can do all 3 and browse the internet. Technology does that on their own and no need for govt. intervention. But giving manufacturers a nudge wouldn't hurt

Shhhhhh....let's see what Scott says.

Uh oh. Some idiot's going to interpret the word "nudge" to mean GUVMINT CONTROL DROOL BURP YOU'RE A SOCIALIST.

Heh. :-)

There are cars like this available today and have been for decades. The price of fuel is going up all the time and more efficient means of transport needs to be used more. Trains are one way of using transport better. I am sure that the price of fuel will soon demand more efficient transport.

2030 is ridiculously far away goal but it is a start.

Which ones?

Do you have any references for these cars that have been available for decades?

Please explain to me what solutions were offered by the Bush/Cheney administration. My fuel costs doubled, my salary/cost of living/cost of health picture is worse, my health costs prevent my retirement, and my grandchildren will never see a balanced budget or recovery from massive war debts.

I am more than ready for change. I think I am ready for Ron Paul.

He can't, because there has been only one car I can remember that ever got that kind of mileage and sold more than a few cars.

Honda made a 600 around 1970 that got 55 or so. It made a mini cooper look big, and they probably just buried anybody killed in an accident with the car because they couldn't get them out of it.

This is what will meet the 55 mpg Hillary wants. There is no magical "technology" that is greately going to improve fuel mileage. Microelectronics have already made the small gains in fuel economy that are possible with computer engine management.

Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel came pretty close.

For everyone ELSE to drive. She, otoh, will continue to be driven around in gas-gulping SUVs and limos.

After all, she's worth it.

When you find someone who will make a Prius bulletproof, please pass the information on to ALL political candidates, all of whom will always use big cars.

I'd rather put them all in an airtight anything. For a few days.

The best story involves Maxine Waters, an embarrassment from Los Angeles. She couldn't be troubled to walk 300 feet for lunch.

Her Ford Expedition shuttled her the 100 yards needed to feed her ample girth.

Let me guess: Bad knees, but hereditary, nothing to do with her eating a container of Bon Bons every day.

That's it. It's always hereditary.