Prius gets 100 MPG

Bigger batteries, and better mileage for the first 60 miles?

Sounds to me like they charge the batteries off the power grid and then claim 100 mpg. *IF* that is what they are doing, this is as crooked as Al Gore. But, just as with Al Gore, the typical consumer won't be able to discern the truth and will think there's a car the gets 100 mpg and not take into account that that's only if you ignore the cost of energy being pulled off the power grid for initial no-gasoline running.

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

Cherry pick your data points and you can make the same car get less than 10 mpg. Or my car get over 60 mpg. The prove would be if it could get 100 mpg over a 100 mile trip with speeds averaging at least

45 mph.

Jack

If there was a 100 mile hill my Camry could pull off that one. I would have to turn the air on though.

Exactly. Reading between the lines, it sounds like the 100 mpg is for the first few miles running mostly on batteries after you've completely charged them off the power grid. Apparently we're supposed to believe that electricity is free.

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

For $40,000 more you can get a Tesla...

ALL electric and a 'gas' to boot!

They won't be. There has never in all of recorded history been a politician who looked farther ahead than the next election. They'll pass laws requiring a certain percentage of all-electric cars be sold in a certain state and then refuse to approve the needed power plants to charge the car's batteries.

When people start to die because of a lack of electrical power, they'll point fingers at the power plant owners and say it's their fault.

The really bad part is that people will buy their excuses.

Jack

Really? Both President Bush and Clinton were concerned with what happened in the future (e.g., their legacy).

Mayor Bloomberg is concerned about the WTC, which will not be completed until after he leaves office, as well as other projects.

Actually, not. The greatest use of electricity is during the day. So, there will be enough power available. In addition, the power companies will be able to determine, within certain parameters, when is the best time to charge the batteries, so that the cheapest energy can be used. And hybrid cars will have the ability to put power back into the grid.

Why?

If you could charge your car off the grid and wind up getting 100 MPG then we could supply the grid power with safe clean nuclear!

If we allowed the construction of enough safe clean nuclear plants to give us 200% of the power needed in this country, and used the extra

100% to power cars, think of the oil we could become independent of.

completely

It's not, but it would sure free us from oil that way.

Ideally we could come up with batteries that could go over 100 miles per charge, then supply all the electricity with nuclear. Bye bye OPEC!

If you went on a trip that was over 100 miles, you could charge it at a rest stop charging station.

That would free us.

Planetary Bill of Rights Project declares July 4th, 2008 United States Energy Independence Day

From Planetary Bill of Rights Project Headquarters in Colorado

Release

It's time for another American revolution!

The Planetary Bill of Rights Project declares July 4th, 2008 as United States Energy Independence Day.

We believe that the American people are fed up with energy dependency on those who are often, in deed, enemies of our nation.

Our own government, immersed in the political correctness of the past, and bound by special interests, is refusing to allow the things to be done, that could bring us into energy independence.

It's time for another revolution!

We hold that the American people should absolutely demand the following from their Congress and President:

Remove all obstructions to the construction of new clean refineries in the United States.

Remove all obstructions to the construction of new safe clean nuclear power plants in the United States, and fast- track their approval.

Remove all tariffs on the importation of cellulose-based ethanol. ( Free market consumer demand will stimulate the auto manufacturers to increase production of flex-fuel vehicles to meet the new supply of ethanol that starts entering the country, which will cost less than the present price of gas. )

Remove all obstructions to the safe clean domestic production of oil off the coasts of the United States. ( Remember that during Katrina, not a single oil rig in the gulf, leaked or spilled, so they have the technology to build them safe and clean. )

Remove all obstructions to the safe clean domestic production of gasoline from coal and oil shale.

If these demands are met by Congress and the President, we predict that the bubble of maniacal speculation will burst and gas prices will fall drastically in the near future in the United States, and this country will eventually become freed from the chains of energy dependency on foreign powers.

The American people should demand that all of these points are passed by Congress and signed by the President on an emergency basis, by July

4th, 2008, in honor of United States Energy Independence Day.

Please write and email your representatives and the President immediately, and demand that they pass these measures by July 4th!

The government botches almost everything they touch, let the free market handle it.

Oh?

Clinton vetoed the offshore drilling bill in 1995, claiming that it would take at least 10 years to see any oil from it anyway. Here we are 13 years later, paying $4 a gallon for gas.

Look, the first color TV's cost $35,000.

Everything costs a lot in the prototype stage, before mass production.

And drilling for oil in the Gulf would not make much of a difference. It is a GLOBAL oil economy. The US is just a bit player in it.

Jeff

AQdd in the fact that it would be a short-time solution for a long-term problem. Yeah, let's deface the earth some more in the name of a short-term solution.

Cathy

Yep, you're right. That's why Bush has gotten us involved in a conflict that he sees no way out of. He jumped into the action without tell us how he would determine if we'd won or how he would get us out.

These projects are being driven by underlings. Folks who will make their living rebuilding those office towers.

I forgot, the brown outs in California were only during the day. Anyone who wanted could run their A/C at night. Hove you ever heard of peaking generators? Those are too dirty to be used in California.

Why don't you sell your car and walk Cathy? That way, there would be more oil for me to use.

Every solution is a short-term solution. It will only be used until a better solution is found and implemented. We couldn't get enough power out of water mills so someone invented a way to hookup a steam engine to a factory. Steam power was too expensive and dangerous so someone invented a way to replace the steam engine with electric motors. The same will happen with oil, we'll use it until something better comes along.

Jack

Yep, one oil well won't solve anything. So why explore for oil? Even if you find an oil field, one producing oil field won't supply the worlds oil needs for more than a couple of weeks, so what's the point in finding new supplies?

Oh, by the way Jeff, the glass IS half empty.

Jack