Re: 'Like house of cards,' used trucks fall

Let me give you an example that disproves that it pays to buy used cars If you can afford to buy new cars. I have been buying a new V8 Mustang GT convertible every two years since 1999. The only thing I pay for is fuel and one state inspection, the dealer provides the three oil changes required over two years, for free.

I owed a '99. '01, '03, '05, '07 and currently have an '09 for two weeks, for which I paid a total of $5,000 to drive home. The '07 cost me $3,900 to drive home. The guy that bought my used '05 just traded it on my '07 a few months after paying nearly $1,000 for tires, and it cost him $6,000 to drive it home. You do the math

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I do feel comfortable simply keeping my expenses low (hence driving very old, fully depreciated vehicles) and trying to keep some savings, but I fully realize that my savings is essentially worthless. If I get to the point where my savings account grows larger than what I need to maintain a comfortable amount of very liquid assets on hand, I'll have to start investing the excess, because it would be stupid to just leave it sit there.

Of course, a vehicle is almost never an investment, and depreciates like mad for the first couple years, and *that* is the point that many consumers don't seem to understand. The drop in large vehicle prices is only emphasizing that, not significantly changing the reality of the situation.

nate

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Mike hunt
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snipped-for-privacy@lycos.com (Mike=A0hunt) Let me give you an example that disproves that it pays to buy used cars If you can afford to buy new cars. =A0 I have been buying a new V8 Mustang GT convertible every two years since 1999. =A0 The only thing I pay for is fuel and one state inspection, the dealer provides the three oil changes required over two years, for free. I owed a '99. '01, '03, '05, '07 and currently have an '09 for two weeks, for which I paid a total of $5,000 to drive home. =A0 The '07 cost me $3,900 to drive home. =A0 The guy that bought my used '05 just traded it on my '07 a few months after paying nearly $1,000 for tires, and it cost him $6,000 to drive it home. =A0 You do the math

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I like math..You keep saying the same thing over and over and over. But you conviently leave out the fact that in the original mustang you purchased in '99 cost you saaayy..? 23K? Now add that to the 5k and

3.9k and whatever else you paid for the others as you traded up(?).

Let's say in '99 when you laid out all that money I purchased a used '95 camry for 10k and put 1.5 k a year in repairs into it (I doubt I would need that much) including tires. Now who's ahead..?

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in2-dadark

That's easy. In two years you will have a worn out '99, worth around $800. In two year I will have a '09, still under warranty, worth $30,000 that I will trade on another brand new 2011. You do the math ;)

In point of fact I did not spend any additional capital when I bought my first Mustang GT convertible. I used the money I saved, by trading my 1997 Lexus LS on a 2000 Lincoln LS V8, rather than another Lexus LS V8. ;)

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I like math..You keep saying the same thing over and over and over. But you conviently leave out the fact that in the original mustang you purchased in '99 cost you saaayy..? 23K? Now add that to the 5k and

3.9k and whatever else you paid for the others as you traded up(?).

Let's say in '99 when you laid out all that money I purchased a used '95 camry for 10k and put 1.5 k a year in repairs into it (I doubt I would need that much) including tires. Now who's ahead..?

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Mike hunt

At some point you put out the $$$ for the original new car.. Unless you were born with a new car...

The person with the used car purchase has invested the savings and with compound interest has over $40,000 AND a reliable (toyota - barely broken in at 200k miles) used car.

saved vs buying new and trading in 01, 03, 05. 07:

12k on original purchase 4k on trade in for one year 5k on your trade for another. Plus 2 more trades you didn't mention the price of..let's say 8k total for those..

29k$ -saving plus interest compounded over 9 years... Your looking at over 40k$ difference. For us average blokes that is a big deal..

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in2-dadark

I have driven Toyotas with 200k miles. POS. I am sure fifty peopel will reply and tell me how there 20 year old Toyota with 200k miles is just like new. They probably lie about other thigs as well.

Ed

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C. E. White

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