Re: MILEAGE

Looks like congress has finally realized
> that there might be a fuel problem. > > New federal regs require > autos average 35mpg by 2015. > ( seven years to catch up to the Toyota Corolla ? ) > > Of course, Detroit claims it'll add $650 to the price of a car.

Okay, I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but I couldn't resist.

I decided to take up a little survey. I consulted edmunds.com and compared all GM cars/trucks with all Toyota cars/trucks. I then listed each one out, along with the mileage reported to Edmunds.

A few rules I followed:

Since no one wants an underpowered car, I picked the larger engine when a choice was given.
Since I can't imagine anyone wanting to drive a stickshift, I picked an auto transmission when possible.
In a few cases - the GMC and Chevy work trucks - the mileage is not listed. I labeled them as zero, but real-world mileage depends on the engine used. Gas 2500/3500 trucks get around 12/18 MPG while diesel models get 16/20, from what I understand.

> I've never worked in the auto industry, > so I don't understand; > > 1. Couldn't they just STOP making/selling > the oversized vehicles TODAY ?? > ( or this model year )

Toyota (Lexus/Scion) makes 35 models of cars/trucks/vans.

Seven models - 20% - are trucks or vans.

22 models - 62% - are midsize or larger. Seven models - 20% - are considered compact or smaller.

GM (Buick/Chevy/GMC/Pontiac/Saturn) makes 54 models of cars/trucks/vans.

18 models - 33% are trucks or vans. (Note that six models are work trucks or full-size vans, which don't exist in Toyota's lineup.) 21 models - 38% - are midsize or larger. 10 models - 18% - are considered compact or smaller.

2. Like TOYOTA, couldn't they concentrate
> on two or three small car lines. ( powered by 4's ? ) >

Um, I think you need to check your numbers, mr/ms troll.

I'd say both companies are producing about the same amount of cars/trucks in similar categories.

For your benefit - I put the files on my website

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Here's the list.

General Motors Model Mileage Enclave 16/22 LaCrosse 17/25 Lucerne 15/22 CTS 18/26 DTS 15/23 Escalade 12/18 ESV 12/18 EXT 12/18 SRX 15/22 STS 17/26 STS-V 13/19 XLR 15/24 XLR-V 14/21 Avalanche 14/19 Aveo 24/34 Cobalt 22/30 Colorado 17/22 Corvette 16/26 Equinox 17/24 Express 12/16 HHR 20/28 Impala 18/29 Malibu 22/30 Malibu Hybrid 24/32 Silverado 1500 14/18 Silverado 2500HD 0/0 Silverado 3500HD 0/0 Suburban 14/20 Tahoe 14/19 Tahoe Hybrid 20/20 Trailblazer 14/20 Uplander 16/23 Acadia 16/22 Canyon 18/24 Envoy 14/20 Savannah 12/16 Sierra 1500 14/18 Sierra 2500 Work 0/0 Sierra 23500 Work 0/0 Yukon 14/19 Yukon Hybrid 20/20 Yukon XL 14/20 H2 0/0 H3 13/16 G5 24/33 G6 18/29 G8 15/24 Grand Prix 16/25 Solstice 19/25 Torrent 16/24 Vibe 26/33 Astra 0/0 Aura 17/26 Aura Hybrid 24/32 Outlook 16/24 Sky 19/25 Vue 16/23 Vue Hybrid 25/32

Toyota Model Mileage

4Runner 15/19 Avalon 19/28 Camry 19/28 Camry Hybrid 33/34 Camry Solara 18/27 Corolla 26/35 FJ Cruiser 15/18 Highlander 17/23 Highlander Hybrid 27/25 Land Cruiser 13/18 Matrix 25/31 Prius 48/45 Rav4 19/27 Seqoia 13/18 Sienna 16/21 Tacoma 16/20 Tundra 13/17 Yaris 29/36 ES350 19/27 GS350 18/25 GS450h 22/25 GS460 17/24 GX470 14/18 IS250 20/26 IS350 18/25 IS F 16/23 LS460 16/24 LS600h 20/22 LS570 12/18 LX570 12/18 RX350 17/22 RX400h 26/24 SC430 16/23 tC 21/29 xB 22/28 xD 26/32