Re: {OT} The Fierce Urgency of Pork

> Not just to abolish but to create something new -- a new politics where > the moneyed pork-barreling and corrupt logrolling of the past would give > way to a bottom-up, grass-roots participatory democracy. That is what > made Obama so dazzling and new.

That's the whole problem. This country is *NOT* a democracy. It's a Republic.

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what can you expect for a professor of constitutional lawthat has no respect for the constitution as it's written. :/

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nm5k
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For one, I'm glad the US is NOT a democracy. If it were we blacks would still be slaves. I would not have an engineering degree or have owned my own business. My wife and daughters would not have the right to vote or hold office. ALL those things came about because of Republicans and the fact the US is a reprehensive Republic and able to overcome the wishes of the majority of voters at the time.

That's the whole problem. This country is *NOT* a democracy. It's a Republic.

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what can you expect for a professor of constitutional lawthat has no respect for the constitution as it's written. :/

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Mike Hunter

Yea, it kind of strikes me as funny that many of the blacks these days think the democrat party is the preferred "black people" party.. Humm.. Many might be surprised to know that MLK was a registered Republican. He was no fool.. If we ever change from a true republic to a true democracy, we are doomed. But this is exactly what Obama wants to see. He's a constitutional attorney who has no respect for the constitution as it's written. He thinks he knows better than the founding fathers, and wants to revise it.. :/ He may not say it outright, but his actions and words tell the real story. Why do you think all these liberals want our guns so bad? Only a total fool would believe it reduces crime. It's quite the opposite, and it's been proven over and over again. They want us to be disarmed so as not to be a threat to them and their socialist agenda some day in the maybe not so far off future. Obama is on record as advocating a National police force that is as powerful as the military. Shades of the "SS".. :( Many these days don't know the difference between a Republic and a democracy. :/ That's why included the short clip.. Should be required reading for everyone that thinks this country is a democracy.

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nm5k

Naw, I don't see it that way. If anything he cured a few ills that had been caused by the ones before him. It's the ones after him that really started the slide downhill. I agree, I don't have much use for the present republicans either. I think *both* parties are equally guilty of corrupting the constitution. That's why I consider myself a Libertarian if anything. But I still view the republicans as the lesser evil of the two major parties. The demo-liberals have just gone completely nuts. They have no concept that they are supposed to be doing

*our* will, not theirs. It's like the last porkathon to the banks, etc in the fall. The people didn't want it. The people said they didn't want it. The crooked weasels in Congress heard the people say they didn't want it. But what did they do? They passed it anyway. It's truly pathetic. And did it do any good? No. They refuse to learn from their mistakes, and now want to do it again, but on a scale that will blast our debt into outer space. I suspect it will pass Jupiter in a year or so, and continue on out of the solar system where it eventually finds a black hole which is where most of this money seems to go.

Check this guy out. He has a lot of videos. This guy has more sense than 98.5 % of the crooked weasels in office today. And he not a democrat. And he is black. I'd trade Obama for him in about 4 milliseconds.

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out some of his others too..

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nm5k

Another good one..

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nm5k

Do you think you and your family would have done better under a dictatorship, such as the Soviet Union? It was a republic, too, only not a democratic one.

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larry moe 'n curly

Most likely because it's not actually true:

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Lucius Accius

What is the color of the sky in YOUR world? Get real! Reagan was the most true conservative since Barry Goldwater. The Dims are the neo-cons, not the Republicans. Did you LOOK at the so called "stimulus" massive spending bill, that passed the Democrat controlled House of Representatives, without a single Republican vote? LOL

That a totally different republican party. The neo-cons took over during the Reagan term and turned the party into one of warmongering and treasury raiding.

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Mike Hunter

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Actually it wasn't uncommon for pre-1964 or pre-1968 pro-civil rights southerners to be Repubicans, and some members of my family from Mississippi were. OTOH it's ridiculous to equate the southern Repubicans of that time with today's Republicans, who basically scooped up almost all the members of the KKK after 1968, including two of my uncles (they're no longer Klan -- they married women who disapproved).

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larry moe 'n curly

Recent republican presidents did the same thing but still couldn't balance the budget, and your favorite president of them all, GW Bush, couldn't balance the budget even by leaving a big chunk of the military budget off the books.

Actually it makes sense to include the Social Security trust fund and every other trust fund in the budget balance because that best reflects the impact on the national economy. I mean, if the SS or the interstate highway system trust funds ran deficits, shouldn't they still be counted?

I don't, which is why I thought it was stupid to start the war against Iraq or let a guy who had never had a successful business become President in 2001.

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larry moe 'n curly

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