Ever notice we never hear of the benefits to the world of a warmer average temperature supposedly caused by CO2? More CO2 means more plant growth that will produce more oxygen, longer growing seasons, creation of new areas to grow food and more food production, less sickness from indoor pollution, savings in the amount of fuel to need to cool rather than heat and the reduction of the overall need for more carbon fuels in the first place etc. LOL
Gosi wrote:
> > >
> >>> Retired VIP wrote:
> >>>> > >>>>>> All I know is as far back as
> >>>>>> when I was earning my Engineering degree, in the late forties, we
> >>>>>> were being
> >>>>>> told man was causing the world to COOL DOWN,
> >>>> snip
> >>>>>> The Engineer in me makes me
> >>>>> How about the climatologist in you, you know, the kind of people > >>>>> most
> >>>>> qualified to determine if the world is cooling or heating? > >>>> snip
> >>>> A climatologist is a TV weather man, not a scientist.
> >>> TV weather reporters are typically only minimally qualified as
> >>> meteorologists and would not find work at NOAA. In contrast
> >>> climatologists and NOAA meteorologists are real scientists.
> >> Retired VIP is simply parroting what he's heard or read in the liberal
> >> circles to denigrate a true climatologist (an Associate Climatologist)
> >> that blew the whistle on data fraud in the state of Washington that was
> >> being used to "prove" GW and affect and effect national policy. >
> >> It's a Clintonesque technique of character assassination when someone
> >> scores a hit on your own credibility. One of the reasons many people
> >> don't believe the false science anymore. And in the GW so-called
> >> scientific community, speaking out against GW is equivalent to saying
> >> that the earth was not the center of the solar system or that salvation
> >> is by grace and not by works in certain periods of history. It is clear
> >> that the GW so-called scientific community operates like a dominant
> >> religion where truth no longer matters. People's livelihoods are at
> >> stake, and they will do anything to protect the religion regardless of
> >> what is true and what is not true.
>
> >> That's why you hear things like Gore's carbon offsets scam referred to
> >> as "indulgences" - a term used about the Catholic church for absolving
> >> people for everything imaginable as long as you donated money to the
> >> church. People find that kind of elitist crap disgusting - and it is. >
> >> If the people who believe in GW really believed it, they wouldn't have
> >> to fake data left and right like they're doing and wouldn't have to
> >> character assassinate people who speak out and expose the truth. >
> >> Bill Putney
> >> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> >> address with the letter 'x')
>
> > I find it funny that governments say they want to reduce...
> > whatever... and sign agreements to do this and that and then they just
> > continue doing what they have always done.... nothing that is. >
> > There is absolutely nothing wrong with carbon in any form globally.
> > Too much of it locally can be a problem.
> > Same with anything else.
> > Too much water and you drown.
>
> > There is a problem in some areas locally with pollution and fish and
> > people do not fare well in it.
> > That has always been like that.
> > Rivers and lakes have been contaminated and sometimes they have been
> > very poisenous.
> > It is of course not good for anyone to be drowning in pollution.
> > Blaming the pollution on carbon is most often wrong.
> > Blaming global warming on human pollution and carbon is stupid at best. >
> I suggest you find the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and
> read their reports. They did their homework.
>
> The concentration of CO2 has gone way up in the last two hundred years,
> and it is rising faster than ever. CO2 traps heat. Put those two facts > together.
>
> Jeff
Very much of the CO2 is generated because of the heating of some areas where animals like the mammuts are buried are rotting away and generate CO2. There is no real evidence available if humans did cause the mammuts to become extinct. Some people blame it on the fact that there were no Pabbuts around.
All kinds of people come with all kinds of predictions. Some say it is getting colder and others say it is getting warmer. I live in an area were we would like to get it a bit warmer so by all means make it hotter. I would very much like to believe that we could influence the heat a bit more.
Over the millions of years all kinds of things have been happening. Some people say we get water every year from outer space. Others say we are losing water into space.
Some people claim the continents are drifting apart, others say the crust is braking up like shell on an egg.
Nobody knows for sure what is happening. It leaves a lot of room for speculations. One thing I have learned is that nobody knows everything.
It is very interesting to see what happens when places get flooded. Most of the time it is because people build their houses to close to the water. Also when there are houses blown away or collaps because of earthquakes it is because they have been poorly built.
Bad houses and bad places for the houses mean that people get killed or need to rebuild or move away. That has been happening for millions of years.
If people are so clever at controling the weather they should try to make some of the deserts habitable and melt the snow.