Toyota, GM, and Ford differences

That may be your opinion but certainly not what we saw in my former fleet service business. We serviced thousands of vehicles monthly in our shops locate in six eastern states. No particular brand stands out from the others in dependability. We serviced nearly every brand of vehicle. Corporate fleets generally keep the vehicles they use, as tools in their business, for five years or 300K WOF because of federal corporate tax deprecation laws. We saw little difference among brands in terms of longevity when the vehicles were given the proper maintenance such as we provided. The only real difference among brands is style and the price of accusation, insurance, maintenance and parts. Any vehicle one buys today, domestic or foreign, well easily last to 200K or more is given decent maintenance. As a consumer who keeps their vehicle till it dies, one should be more concerned about the price of the car and its parts than the need for them, since they all need to be repaired at some point. As to the chance of your friend seeing more of particular brand, is like asking someone in the Bronx Zoo if they see more pigeons or penguins. One must remember GM has five times as many vehicles on the road and Ford four times as many as any other brand. Since Toyota arrived in the US in 1958, the past few years is the only time it has sold more than 1,000,000 vehicles annually, while GM and Ford sold more than half of ALL of the up to 19,000,000 vehicles sold annually in the US over the same period. Even today GM and Ford sell more trucks alone than does Toyota, Lexus, and Scion sells cars and trucks combined today.

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter
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What makes you believe that? GM sells far more cars than Toyota, somebody must like the cars they sell. Same with trucks and SUVs. GM sells more of those in two months than Toyota sells in a year. Toyota make good vehicles but apparently a lot of buyer prefer something other than a Toyota since the only sell around 10% of all the vehicles sold in the US ;)

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

What makes you think that? GM and Ford still sell for more than any other manufacture and more than all of the import brands combined. ;)

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

The only Toyota truck made in the US is their small truck that is assembled in the GM/Toyota plant in California. GM, Ford and Dodge make the vast majority of the trucks they sell in the US, in the US of American parts.

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

Several years ago the NYC Taxi Commission permitted a three year test to judge FWD cars and minivans for suitability as taxis in the city. Taxi companies bought domestic and foreign brands for use as taxis, hoping to same money. Within three months they were showing up in repair shops. Within two years nearly 90% had been taken out of service. At the end of the test only RWD vehicles were allowed to be use as Taxis in NYC..

The average NYC CV Taxi has on 300,000,000 miles on the clock and some are run up to a million miles before being replaced. Many actually start out as former police vehicles..When I still owned my fleet service business Ford had around 80% of the corporate fleet business on the east cost. Our meticulous maintenance records over many years showed that Ford vehicles were the most cost effect to own, long term, based on the cost of acquisition, insurance, maintenance, repair, parts and vehicle replacement costs. No other manufacture even came close in that regard. I was that experience that led me to switch for Lexus V8s I had been buying to the Lincoln LS V8 in 1999. The kicker was I saved nearly enough money switching that I was able to buy my first in a series of Mustang GT convertibles ;)

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

I quess you never heard of Hondas ongoing brake problems have you ;)

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

I agree. They intentionally pursued the low-cost, mediocre-car strategy, ceding the "best of class" status to cars like the Accord.

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dizzy

Hehe.

Snap!

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dizzy

Every consider using paragraphs, "Mike". I for one never read those verbose messes you leave. Of course, I know it's all bullshit anyway, coming from you.

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dizzy

Wrong, idiot, and since yo know it's wrong, that makes you a liar as well.

Some Americans, too stubborn and/or stupid to even consider the foreign competition, yes. Also those for whom mediocrity suits them fine.

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dizzy

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Because it's probably true. If for nothing else, they'll probably declare bankruptcy to get out of their union deals, just like the airlines have had to do.

Idiot liar. No, they do not.

Also, what's the trend of Ford and GM's market share, "Mike"?

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dizzy

tundras are made in texas....

Reply to
Dan J.S.

Perhaps where you live the may come from the new plant, but I didn't know that plant was in production yet. The ones I see on the east coast are assemble in Indiana and show a '5.'

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

The tend has been down.but GM and Ford still sell more vehicles than all of Japanese brands combined. The three domestics sell more the 57% of all the vehicle sold in the US, whether you believe that or not makes no difference in that fact.

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

Please enlighten us. Post the total cars sales for GM and total car sales for Toyota for 2005 so we can see which statement is correct. LOL

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

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Idiot. You're changing your story to "in the US" and also to include "the three domestics".

Reply to
dizzy

Smoking that loco weed again eh? LOL

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter

Or the tranny problems with the Honda Pilot/Acura MDX that cost over $7K to fix....

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James C. Reeves

Doesn't make a damn what they sell, Mike. They are approaching bankruptcy. If they lose money on every car, it is hard to make up the difference on volume.

Financial gurus, banks, etc all predict that bankruptcy is the most likely outcome for GM and Ford, and perhaps is their salvation.

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<HLS

It is a freaking shame that someone didn't push the button on plastic plenums, then. Or shitteaux gaskets.. Or crappola transmissions... Or substandard body integrity...

Having a quality meeting doesnt mean anything. Producing quality, a foreign concept to GM and Ford, does.

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<HLS

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