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web site has long term reliability rank as shown below. How credible is this rank?

  1. Chevrolet Malibu
  2. Lexus RX 330
  3. Lexus LX 470
  4. Toyota 4Runner
  5. Chevrolet Tahoe
  6. Lexus GS Sedan
  7. Honda S2000
  8. GMC Sierra 2500HD/3500
  9. Buick Century
  10. Lexus LS 430
  11. Toyota Avalon
  12. Honda Odyssey
  13. Honda CR-V
  14. Ford Ranger
  15. Ford Ranger extended cab
  16. Lincoln Town Car
  17. Mercury Grand Marquis
  18. Ford F-150 Light Duty
  19. Buick Regal
  20. Toyota Highlander
  21. Toyota Corolla
  22. Ford E-Series
  23. Honda Accord Coupe
  24. Honda Accord Sedan
  25. Ford F-150 Light Duty ext. cab
  26. Ford F-150 Supercrew
  27. Ford Crown Victoria
  28. Chrysler Concorde
  29. Nissan Altima
  30. Acura RSX
  31. Lexus ES 330
  32. Mazda Miata
  33. Porsche 911
  34. Chevrolet Express
  35. GMC Yukon
  36. GMC Yukon XL
  37. Chevrolet Suburban
  38. Toyota Prius
  39. Oldsmobile Silhouette
  40. Buick Lesabre
  41. Toyota Sienna
  42. Chevrolet Corvette
  43. Toyota Sequoia
  44. Toyota RAV4
  45. Cadillac DeVille
  46. GMC Sonoma extended cab
  47. GMC Sonoma
  48. Buick Park Avenue
  49. Dodge Caravan
  50. Pontiac Montana
  51. Toyota Tundra
  52. Dodge Grand Caravan
  53. Ford Excursion
  54. Toyota Camry
  55. Toyota Camry Solara
  56. Chevrolet Impala
  57. Mercury Sable
  58. Chevrolet Silverado 1500/2500
  59. Chevrolet Silverado 1500/2500 ext. cab
  60. Acura RL
  61. GMC Sierra 1500/2500
  62. GMC Sierra 1500/2500 ext. cab
  63. Chevrolet S-10 Pickup
  64. Chevrolet S-10 Pickup extended cab
  65. Acura TL
  66. Mazda MPV
  67. Dodge Intrepid
  68. Chevrolet Tracker 2-door
  69. Chevrolet Tracker 4-door
  70. Porsche Boxster
  71. Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class
  72. Audi TT
  73. Hyundai Sonata
  74. Ford Mustang
  75. Ford Mustang convertible
  76. Pontiac Grand Am Coupe
  77. Pontiac Grand Am Sedan
  78. Dodge Stratus Coupe
  79. Ford Explorer Sport Trac
  80. Dodge Ram Pickup 2500/3500
  81. Chevrolet Monte Carlo
  82. Subaru Forester
  83. Toyota Celica
  84. Ford Escape
  85. Chrysler Town & Country
  86. Dodge Ram Pickup 1500
  87. Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4-door
  88. Honda Civic Coupe
  89. Honda Civic Sedan
  90. Cadillac Seville
  91. Pontiac Bonneville
  92. Pontiac Sunfire 2-dr
  93. Pontiac Sunfire 4-dr
  94. Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD/3500
  95. BMW 5 Series Sedan
  96. BMW 7 Series
  97. Jaguar XJ
  98. BMW X5
  99. Dodge Durango
100. Mercedes-Benz E-Class 101. Lincoln Navigator 102. Pontiac Grand Prix Coupe 103. Pontiac Grand Prix Sedan 104. Audi A4/S4 105. Lincoln LS 106. Toyota Tacoma 107. Mazda Tribute 108. Nissan Frontier 109. Nissan Frontier 4-door 110. Nissan Frontier extended cab 111. Lexus IS 300/IS 300 SportCross 112. Dodge Dakota 4-door 113. Dodge Dakota extended cab 114. Mercury Mountaineer 115. Ford Expedition 116. Chevrolet Venture 117. Acura MDX 118. Audi A6 119. Chrysler PT Cruiser 120. Jeep Wrangler 121. Saturn LW Wagon 122. Chevrolet Cavalier Coupe 123. Chevrolet Cavalier Sedan 124. Subaru Outback Sport 125. Chrysler 300M 126. Subaru Legacy 127. Subaru Outback 128. Ford Taurus 129. Chevrolet Blazer 130. Ford F-250/F-350 131. Nissan Sentra 132. Saturn LS Sedan 133. Nissan Maxima 134. BMW 3 Series Convertible 135. BMW 3 Series Coupe 136. BMW 3 Series Sport Wagon 137. BMW 3 Series Sedan 138. Nissan Quest 139. Mazda 6 140. Volkswagen Passat 141. Saab 9-5 Sedan/Wagon 142. Mercedes-Benz S-Class 143. Saab 9-3 Sedan 144. Saab 9-3 Cpe/Conv 145. Jeep Grand Cherokee 146. Chrysler Sebring Sedan 147. Dodge Stratus Sedan 148. Chrysler Sebring Convertible 149. Ford Explorer 150. Ford Explorer Sport 151. Suzuki Vitara/GrandVitara 152. Chrysler SebringCpe 153. Oldsmobile Bravada 154. Nissan Pathfinder 155. Mazda B-Series 156. Pontiac Aztek (4x2) 157. Pontiac Aztek (4x4) 158. Volkswagen Jetta 159. Volkswagen Beetle 160. Oldsmobile Alero 2-door 161. Oldsmobile Alero 4-door 162. Hyundai Santa Fe 163. Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class 164. Jaguar S-Type 165. Mercedes-Benz M-Class 166. Hyundai Accent Coupe 167. Hyundai Accent Sedan 168. Hyundai XG350 169. Mercedes-Benz C-Class 170. Hyundai Tiburon 171. Kia Sorento 172. Volvo S80 173. Mitsubishi Galant 174. Volvo V70 175. Volvo C70 176. Kia Optima 177. Suzuki XL-7 178. Hyundai Elantra 179. Volvo S60 180. Dodge Neon 181. Ford Focus 2-door 182. Ford Focus 4-door 183. Volvo S40 184. Volvo V40 185. Audi allroad quattro 186. Subaru Impreza 187. Nissan Xterra 188. Kia Rio 189. Chevrolet Astro 190. Volkswagen GTI 191. Mitsubishi Eclipse 192. Volkswagen Golf 193. Isuzu Rodeo Your top priority: LONG-TERM DEPENDABILITY The vehicles below have no long-term dependability data. ?. Cadillac Escalade EXT ?. Honda Element ?. Lexus SC 430 ?. Ford Thunderbird ?. Chevrolet Colorado ?. Lexus GX 470 ?. Cadillac Escalade/Escalade ESV ?. Cadillac XLR ?. Land Rover Range Rover ?. Nissan 350Z ?. Mercury Monterey ?. Chrysler Crossfire ?. Acura TSX ?. Volvo XC70 ?. Audi A8 ?. Chrysler Pacifica ?. Infiniti I35 ?. Buick Rendezvous ?. Ford Freestar ?. Honda Pilot ?. Pontiac Vibe ?. MINI Cooper ?. Nissan Murano ?. Infiniti FX-Series ?. Nissan Pathfinder Armada ?. Saturn VUE ?. Cadillac CTS ?. Nissan Titan ?. Volvo XC90 ?. Mitsubishi Outlander ?. Buick Rainier ?. Chevrolet Avalanche ?. Lincoln Aviator ?. Suzuki Verona ?. Scion xB ?. GMC Envoy ?. Saturn ION ?. Toyota Matrix ?. Chevrolet TrailBlazer ?. Mercury Marauder ?. Mazda 3 ?. Infiniti G35 ?. HUMMER H2 ?. Mercedes-Benz SL-Class ?. Jeep Liberty ?. Dodge SRT-4 ?. Jaguar X-Type ?. Mitsubishi Endeavor ?. Mazda RX-8 ?. Scion xA ?. Kia Spectra ?. Kia Sedona ?. Chevrolet Equinox ?. Chrysler 300Series ?. Subaru Baja ?. GMC Savana ?. Pontiac GTO ?. BMW Z4 ?. GMC Canyon ?. BMW 6 Series ?. Kia Amanti ?. Land Rover Freelander ?. Mitsubishi Lancer/LancerSportback ?. Isuzu Ascender ?. Chevrolet Aveo ?. Suzuki Aerio/AerioSX
Reply to
Dan
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In my experience... not at all!

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Reply to
JH

Having the Malibu ranked at #1 seems a little optimistic in my opinion, the other top 10 seems to make some sense. I always thought these rankings were contradictory as they seem to ignore branding...isn't the LX 470 a rebadged Toy Land Cruiser with better trim and options??

Take a look at these comments on what are likely out of warranty Malibus, I certainly hope they've fixed the bugs by now:

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Reply to
Dave Stone

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NM, the Land Crusier isn't listed in there at all so that comparison doesn't work.

It does have the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis listed as 17/27. Are they still building both these models in Canada?

Reply to
Dave Stone

As creditable as it can be, some american cars are alot better now, but in 1 yr it can change alot.

Reply to
m Ransley

Not even close. A Chevy in first place? Give me a break!

Reply to
John Wojcicki

I was watching the Malibu group for a while. Only significant complaint was strut noise, just like many years of Camry's.

Reply to
Art

It's easy to tell that they're smoking something at J.D. Powers. The Malibu can't get the best at long-term reliability. Look at this website:

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If Powers and Associates are going to smoke something, they need to pass it around to those they wish to believe their canards.

Reply to
Viperkiller

Chevy still has the most percentage of cars on the road since production, based on owner registration (according to one of their ads).

But I think the JD Powers long term reliability means the number of problems found at 3 years. So I too am surprised by Malibu's ranking as #1. I am looking to buy a car towards the end of the year, and while the GM Epislon platform received very good ratings for a family sedan, I never thought of looking at the Malibu (based on the Epislon platform) because of GM's history. But that could change.

Another surprise is that the Camry hasn't even shown up in the top 40. What's going on? I heard about Camrys having problems since the cost reduction started in 1997, but I would think it ranked at least better than the Altimas, which were gaining sales lately while having production problems in the new US plant.

But JD Powers is an authority in these rankings, so who knows. At least the Lexus ranked higher than their Toyota counterparts. So they got those right.

John

Reply to
John

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