Re: Toyota loses its way

1. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
2. From his postings here, he appears to be just about enough of a hammerhead to actually ruin a transmission in a Tercel thinking it was some kind of Boy Racer car...

He needs to blame Toyota for his own lack of Common Sense. Thing is, I did what he did with my Tercel and had no problems. And he never did respond to the comment I made about ATF service...

i think that before you start giving him ANY #1, you need to step back and pay attention to your own experience first. unless there was some other fault already present, there's no way our friend damaged a toyota transmission simply by letting it shift at full throttle. cab drivers full throttle shift in their toyotas all day long, all over the world, [as of course, do many consumers] and those transmissions cope just fine. have you noticed how many "concerned user" postings there are in this group archive about failures? "but all i did was put my foot down", etc? none. there are literally millions of #2's out there, but suddenly, our friend pops up and pops off with just the kind of unproven but inflammatory "allegation" that the other paid sociopaths are posting. bottom line, he's making it up.

Is English a second language for you? What part of "it was shifting itself in fully automatic mode" do you not understand? Just like every other car I've driven. I drive them all the same, it was only the Toyota that could not hold up to a few full throttle automatically controlled up shifts a week. It appears you really have little understanding of how cars work.

You two need to get a room if you're going to sploog all over each other.

so you say dude, so you say. pity all the others of millions of toyota abusers out there can't corroborate your assertion though, don't you think? then you'd be on to something.

seems you really have little understanding of how to support a logical argument, let alone actually observe mechanical performance.

What part of "You probably managed to exceed (the 34MPH spec) that..." did you not understand?

If you don't think an autmatic transmission can exceed it's own spec speed limit under "full throttle shifts", then there's hope for you...

He drives them all the same? Sure.

and you're proud of it!

I'm just going to kill file you and save us both a lot of wasted typing.

i have a better solution - don't post fabricated bullshit, then people won't call you on it. guaranteed to work.

My buddy the Ford dealership tech does appx 80% warantee work. My buddy at Toyota does appx 15% warantee work.

Thats why I still hold Toyota in much higher regard than Ford.

Ben

... said the pot, while pointing his crooked little finger at the kettle.

You've posted nothing but unsubstantiated assertions for as long as I can remember.

1.) E-spec lighting is illegal because Detroit says so. Yeah, right. 2.) Foreign cars have separate turn and brake lamps, Detroit cars have the same light for brakes and turns. Yeah, right. 3.) Metric doesn't work in America because Detroit says so.

Having said that, I'd not expect any transmission to hold up for very long while pulling "full throttle shifts A FEW TIMES PER WEEK." Why on earth would anybody subject an econo-box of any make or model to full throttle shifts a few times a YEAR, much less a few times a week? (which is the same position that Jim Beam is taking) That's absurdity that exceeds the assertion that Detroit blocks e-spec lighting from coming here.

You're the reason why buying a Used Car is a dangerous proposition. If you drive all cars to red line before they shift, you're doing serious damage to the engine and the transmission.

I had automatic transmissions that made this kind of shift a handful of times in all of the years I owned them, and none that ever made them more once in the same quarter. There isn't an automatic transmission made that's intended to make full throttle shifts at or near red line, a few times a week.

It doesn't matter that you claim you do it all of the time, it's no way to treat your machine. Ever. Period.

He's pissed all he could afford was a Tercel and was trying to make a Drift racer out of it.

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On a slightly different tack, on the times I've been to America, I have used hire cars (obviously), but I've found that kickdown takes about 4 or 5 seconds to activate which is quite disturbing when you're trying to overtake. Why does it take so long.

You're getting some low-spec inexpensive cars that have already been beaten on like, well, rental cars by everyone that's driven them before.

In other words, they weren't that good to begin with, and they've been severely abused besides.

nate

BTW this has NOT been my experience with recent GM products, my complaint is that they downshift at the slightest provocation, and also the torque converter locks and unlocks constantly (it unlocks whenever you lift your foot completely off the accelerator, for example, and then re-locks a few seconds after you get on the gas, which drives me freaking apes**t and also lets the car essentially freewheel down hills)

All this hectic action can't be good for the transmixer, I think I will have the fluid changed in the Impala at its next service (should be

35000 miles unless the oil change light comes on sooner)

nate

In message , Nate Nagel writes

I agree with you, plus the fact that you most probably look after your car.

Drifting in a FWD? I thought one got FWD to avoid drifting. There's nothing in the whole world like hanging the back end out and feathering the gas to make the car drift sidways across the parking lot.

I suppose winding the motor to redline to force a shift, "a few times a week," is somthing one might do while trying to drift the rear end. No, that wouldn't work.