Think I will keep my old Camry...

People like you are ruining the economy. Go out and get a 5 year loan and buy the most expensive Lexus you can find.

I only drove 160 K miles. I drive on propane. My car will be 6 years old in Febr. 2004. Similar experience like you. I think I go on for another 6 years!

Zwerius Kriegsman The Netherlands.

nonono, he is contributing to the economy by saving up his money in the banks and hence contributing a greater cash flow to the economy.

With Camry's and other reliable cars, the major reason you want to get another car/year model is if you get bored with your Camry. If not, more power to ya.

--Ibrahim

I've got 140,000 on my '91 DX. No signs that she's giving out on me any time soon!

Josh

Tell us about that propane stuff. It sounds interesting. How did you get it to run on propane?

It's quite common in our country to use propane as fuel. My estimation is that 5-10% of the cars use propane. I think maybe 60-70% of the fuel stations sell propane. You can just go to your dealer and ask for an LPG-installation to build in. It contains a propane tank (in my case 70 litre) which can never be filled for more than 80%. There's an automatic fillstop at 80% for safety. Offcourse the tank has a safety valve (blowing off to the outside of the car) set at 16 bar (as faras I know). I' ve never noticed it was operating. But it shouldn't offcourse. There's a propane pump inside the tank. There's also a level indicator on the tank (and the one on the dashboard, for petrol, is used for propane when you drive on propane). You can choose whether you drive on petrol or propane by a switch. Then there's the propane line ofcourse from the tank in the trunk, to the motor compartment. There's an electromagnetic valve and from ther it goes to the propane injectors in the intake manifold. The principle is the same as with the fuel injectors for petrol, but they are for higher pressures ofcourse. Then there's the electronic's box, to which the lambda-sensor is connected and from where the propane injector's are controlled. It's more or less an identical system as used for the petrol injectors.

Advantages of propane: very clean fuel (oil is staying clean for a long time) cheap fuel (in our country about ? 0,35/litre compared to ? 1,10/litre for petrol) you can drive a long distance when you use both, petrol and propanetank

Disadvantages of propane: it takes a part of the trunk the car is getting heavier in our country we have to pay more roadtax when we drive on propane. But when you drive a lot, the low litreprice wins :-) installationcost (which in my case was about ? 3,800)

Hope this is enough information for you?

Best regards, Zwerius Kriegsman

Interesting. Thanks for the information. I would do it if the initial costs were not so high.

Does anyone know if I can get a LPG installation kit for a 90 camry? And how much was the install to propane?

kriegsman wrote:

I would like to add a few more: - fuel consumption (=liters consumed for every km driven) is higher (+20-30%) - engine power is lower - you're not allowed to park your car in certain public (underground) parking garages, or to drive to certain tunnels - a few more components in the car. More components=lower MTBF and higher maintenance costs ;-)

Luc K