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March 3, 2010, 10:39 pm
Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would
be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's-
really-long) as approved replacement plugs.
Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really
convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last
year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each.
Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two
possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser-
etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for
about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum.
Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so.
Toyota part 90919-01194.
Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones?
Re: which spark plugs?
I'd suggest looking at the Denso on-line application guide. See:
http://www.globaldenso.com/cgi-bin/global/plug/usa/4w/4w-plug.cgi?name=CAMRY&filename=4w-63.txt&action=search
PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs.
The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20.
The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess
is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug
P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use.
If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at:
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder/car_truck_suv/default.asp?mode=nml
They list the following plugs for your car:
Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553
V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990
G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092
Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the
OE Service Part
Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764
I checked a few on line stores for prices:
Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each
Advance Auto carries the following plugs:
*Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49
*Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99
*NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89
*NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99
*NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59
If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253)
plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11
(Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice.
I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite,
Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right
for your application.
Ed
Re: which spark plugs?
wrote:
Wow thanks for the research and the sites!
Just wondering, what are the drawbacks going for the $3 plugs? Would
I get superior mileage going for the more expensive plugs? Or is
there the risk that the metal electrode will fall off?
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I can tell you that based on the recent experience of an acquaintance, you
do NOT want the electrode to fall off. It's interesting, sort of like having
your shirt catch fire. That sort of interesting.
Re: which spark plugs?
On 3/3/2010 8:54 PM, Michael wrote:
Do not worry. My guess is that the laser spark plugs are a marketing
gimmick, much like Angus beef and new improved Tide. If your electrode
falls off, it's likely due to a manufacturing defect. I've never heard
of this happening. Worry instead of an asteroid crashing into the Earth
and ending all human life.
Re: which spark plugs?
No. These plugs are not suitable for your engine because they only have a
single ground electrode. Your engine has a wasted-spark ignition system
that requires dual ground electrodes.
Toyota does not recommend non-platinum plugs for your car, so I would spend
the extra cash and get what Toyota specifies, which is:
Denso PK20TR11 (also sold as Toyota 90919-01194)
or
NGK BKR6EKPB11
I'm told that some aftermarket ND plugs come with screw-cap tops, even if
they are otherwise identical to OEM Toyota. So check for that if buying ND
plugs in the aftermarket. The screw-caps can come loose, and cause problems
with arcing and damage. OEM Toyota ND plugs have solid tops.
--
Tegger
Re: which spark plugs?
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:39:21 -0800, Michael wrote:
I think the ones for $13-14 are Iridium, really no need to use these in
your car.
Denso Platinum are ~$6 each, these will do just fine.
$3 plugs are standard copper, and usually not recommended by Toyota. You
could use an NGK V-power or U-Groove, but you'll be changing them again in
20,000-40,000 miles.
I'm lazy. $6 for 70-100,000 miles is good for me...
Re: which spark plugs?
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:28:19 -0800, Michael wrote:
I think I used NGKs from AutoZone. NGK, Denso, about the same.
Just don't use Champions if you want the car to actually START below 45
degrees...
Your car's easy. I did it on a Supra and had to remove the entire intake!
I certainly went with a high-mileage plug!
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