'94 4Runner Starting Trouble?

I have a 1994 4runner, 4wd, manual trans with 6cylinder engine. Lately I have been having some starting difficulty. If I leave the car for a few hours or overnight and then go to start it all I hear is one click from the solenoid and then nothing. The engine won't crank at all at first, but after one or two tries the engine will start normally. Also the problem has been getting worse. It used to start after 2 or 3 tries, but now it sometimes takes 5 or 6 tries before I can get the car started. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks Anders

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Anders
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Yeah, you got a marginal battery or cruxed up battery terminals. It's also possible that a bad ground from engine to frame would cause this, but less likely.

Check the battery health. A "quick and dirty" check can be done with a voltmeter. It should read slightly over 12 volts, like 12.5 volts. Crank (have a helper crank) the engine, it should drop to no more than about 9.5 volts at its lowest.

If your battery seems OK, do a voltage drop test between battery and solenoid, across the solenoid, and battery to starter casing (ground). Voltage drop when the circuit is energized should be less than .2 (2/10) volt - zero is "ideal." This will nail down whether the problem is in the starter/solenoid or the wiring leading to it.

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19 Toyota (NipponDenso now called Denso) starter repair sites:

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Starter contact kits (8mm ID hole):

Ace Electric # S-5263 (only two contacts) Ace Electric # S-5264 (only two contacts) Metro # 66-82104 (only two contacts)

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,Pomona,California) Toyota # 28226-72010/80 (battery side)(also1KZTE-2LT-1KZT) Toyota # 28226-72080 (8808-9108) Toyota # 28226-16130 (9108-9308) Toyota # 28226-55050 (9308-9511) Toyota # 28226-70040 (9308-9511) Toyota # 28226-72040 (motor side if needed) Toyota # 28226-72010 (8808-9511) Toyota # 28226-74070 (9108-9511) (2000 Tundra & others) Toyota # 28226-22050 (2000 Tundra & others) Toyota # 28226-66060 (1993-1997 Land Cruiser 2.0 KW starters)

For others besides 22R series:

Toyota # 28226-54220 (motor side) (2LTE, 3L..LN13# IKZTE, 2L#, KZN130,LN108,112,85..4FC) Toyota # 28226-54250 (Diesel Surf 2.4TD, contains a new end cover and gasket) Toyota # 28226-54320 (battery side) (2LTE, 3L..LN13# IKZTE, 2L#, KZN130, LN108,112,85..4FC,3B-1HZ-BJ73-HZJ7#-1KZT-KZJ70) Toyota # 28226-17030 (battery side) (1H#-HDJ80-HZJ80) Toyota # 28226-56250 (battery side) (3B-1HZ-1PZ-PZJ7#)

Starter contacts only (8mm ID hole):

Ace Electric # S-5231 Ace Electric # S-5293 (crescent moon shape) Ace Electric # S-5295 (crescent moon shape) Metro # 66-82106

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# 28226-70040Wilson's Electric # 45-29-652 (maybe it's 45-29-6521) Starter brushes:

AC Delco # D762 GP Sorensen # 255048 Standard # JX-117

Whether your starter uses two rectangular types or one rectangular and one crescent you can substitute with two squares or one square and one crescent so any of the above part #'s for those kits will be the right ones,or about half of the auto electric shops in your local yellow pages would sell aftermarket contacts for only $5 each or the pair.

If the brake and charge lights come on during revving of the engine then it's a sign that the carbon alternator brushes require replacing as this is the mileage for them to wear out. In alternators the brushes wear out on average every 140-170 000 miles where on the dashboard the brake & charge light both come on at the same time. About half of the auto electric shops in your local yellow pages sell carbon alternator brushes and copper solenoid starter contacts for about $5/pair.Another way to verify that the alternator is not charging is while the engine is running bring a metal screwdriver or any metal object near the alternator and if the alternator is working properly then it should act like a magnet and grab the screwdriver.

For carbon brushes R&R:

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For decoding the dashboard lights:

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Here are part #'s for Toyota alternator carbon brushes and copper solenoid starter contacts which are used in about 95% of all Toyota vehicles.

Toyota alternator Brushes with holder:

Toyota # 27370-35060=3D$29 CDN Honda # 31105-PZ1-003 Metro # 39-82003

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,Pomona,California) Unknown brand name # F4019-53035

Alternator brush only (qty:1 brush unless otherwise stated):

AC Delco # E724 AC Delco # E731 (side wire and concave tip) Ace Electric # DA-61 (brush only),S-5367 (brush holder) Beck Arnley # 178-1669 (side wire and concave tip) Beck Arnley # 178-1376 Borg Warner # X580 (side wire and concave tip) Canadian Tire # 19-2050-6=3D$4.49/pair Daihatsu # 27370-87302-000 Daihatsu # 27371-63020-000 Daihatsu # 27371-87501-000 Daihatsu # 27371-70300-000 Echlin # E601=3D$8.16 CDN/pair (UAP/NAPA) Echlin # ECHE601 Echlin # EC480 Echlin # ECHE480 GP Sorensen # 255047 (side wire and concave tip) GM # 94123056 GM # 96054118 Honda # 31144-PD1-004=3D$9.72 Honda # 31144-PD1-0040 Honda # 31144-PD1-0030 Honda # 31150-PR7-A01 Honda # 31150-PTO-003 Hino Industries # 021660-0390 Hino Industries # 021660-0510 Isuzu # 8-94123-056-0 Isuzu # 8-97032-308-0 Isuzu # 8-97032-310-0 Mazda # 021660-0390 Mazda # 021660-0510 Mazda # KL47-18-W75 Metro # 38-82001(side wire concave tip)

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,Pomona,California) Mileage Plus # E601SB Mitsubishi # MD604474 Mitsubishi # 21660-0510 Niehoff # WA571 (side wire and concave tip) NipponDenso # 021660-0390 NipponDenso # 021660-0510 Standard # JX-116 (side wire and concave tip) Subaru # 021660-0390 Subaru # 021660-0510 Suzuki # 31631-82610 Suzuki # 31656-82611 Suzuki # 021660-0510 Toyota # 27370-42010 Toyota # 27370-75060 Toyota # 27371-63020=3D$5.80 (up to 9105) (side wire and concave tip) Toyota # 27371-70300=3D$5.20 (9105-9511) Toyota # 27371-76004-71 UAP/NAPA # MPEE601SB Victory Lap # FAX57=3D$4.49 CDN/pair (Canadian Tire) Wilson's Electric # 26-29-7534 (side wire and concave tip)=3D$2.20 each CDN (Diesel Auto Electric)(Parts for Trucks,box of 10 for $3.40 CDN)

Specifications: Length=3D15 mm Width=3D7 mm Thickness=3D5 mm Lead length=3D49 mm

These Honda alternators are the same except the pulley must be swapped:

1986-89 Honda Accord (Carb),the EFI can be used but the voltage reg must be swapped 1990-93 Acura Integra

For alternator upgrade:

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1985 Toyota 4-Runner,solid front straight axle,factory cruise control,sunroof,22R-E,W56,RN60LV-MSEK,rusted rear step/towing chrome bumper with 248 000 KM
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sidneybek

Some Toyota trucks have to have the ehgine mounts removed and the engine raised to get the starter out. You can get the bolts out but cannot remove the starter without doing this.

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