1974 Ghia at auto auction...UPDATES & HELP NEEDED!

Hey Gang,

Thanks for all the help (especially the warning about buying a pig in a poke!)

News: today they let you look at the cars before they go up for auction tomorrow (Thursday) at 10:00 a.m. EST

The car is now marked as running (but then stalls, more than likely a fuel pump issue, which was noted on the windshield), and that the vehicle moves. Now, the criteria for "moves" in this auction is they start up the car and drive it forward 2 feet and then drive it back 2 feet, never getting out of first gear. Doesn't say much, but more information than I had before. I can't believe they got it to fire up, considering it looks like it's been sitting outside somewhere since the late 80's.

Now, the new issues I was able to discern while looking at the car for

45 minutes was there is some light Bondo work (brought me a magnet!), but nothing serious, just some areas around the fenders. My NEW main concern is the car is very low in the rear, specificaly it is almost, but not quite, resting on the tires. The tires ARE underinflated and 2 of them are completely flate (one rear and one front, opposite sides), but I don't think this is what is causing the rear to sink onto the tires. There is also some evidence of a home-made repair to the rocker panels (using rivets), which is starting to rust away. The rear fenders are also showing some rust-through issues towards the very tail-end of the car (underside). The nose looks clean and everything else looks pretty stock.

My question to you guys is this: what is causing the car to sit so low in the rear that it is almost resting on the tires? I've seen cars drive on the road like this once in awhile and wondered what the deal is? Too cheap to get new shocks? Are the springs gone? Is the frame failing? I owned a car when I was 16 and the frame failed while I was driving along and the tires started to smoke! This was AFTER Midas put

4 new shocks on the car and told me NOTHING about the frame issue! Is this possibly something serious? I have ZERO intention on buying a car at ANY price if the frame is starting to go. We have about 90 minutes again tomorrow morning to look at the cars before the bidding starts. Is there something I should specifically look for this time to determine if it is just a case of new shocks/springs, or a frame failure. Thanks!

- Darren

BTW - another Ghia owner looking at the car said it should easily go for $1500.00. I think he was full of it and just wanted to scare me away from bidding. It is NOT a convertible.

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WIZARDGLIK
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Darren.....for comparison, here is a link to a 73 ghia that i recently purchased....it is in GREAT shape and as stock as they come....the description you give of the rear "sitting on the tires" leads me to believe it is your eye playing with you...the rear of the ghia does look to sit low, however the wheel wells are open way up inside the rear panels....the only "frame" you will find in the car is the center spine that runs from the front to the rear of the car, then splits to craddle the transaxle...the only other "frame" part would be those rockers in the body with the pop rivetted metal in em...LOL...the car is a uni-body.....not sure the "other ghia guy" was trying to scare you, because the more you describe the car the more i think it is worth...i kept my initial reccomendation low due to unknowns that you now kind of know...you can also see what i paid for my ghia in the auction, and it was probably, at minimum, a grand cheaper than it should have brought in my area.....anywho here it is:

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Joey Tribiani

"some evidence of a home-made repair to the rocker panels (using rivets)"

Run, do not walk, away ...

Speedy Jim

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Speedy Jim

A aaaaaw!........C'mon Jim, It's likely worth 100 bucks for a parts car............But I'd not buy it with restoration in mind. If it runs, even kinda, it likely has a rebuildabale carb. Wheels might be usable. If any part of the minterior is re-buildable, they are not free anywhere..............but 1500 with rocker damage is not even kinda likely for anyone with a clue................

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MUADIB

sheesh...some people are spoiled... its getting difficult to find any ACVW in my area that don't need rust repair...bugs need pans and channels, ghias need pans, rockers, and rear quarters, type 3's need fenders,pans, rockers, and rear quarters. Buses need rear corners, full floors, and doglegs..... pretty much the norm....and a ghia here that has 50% or more original metal in the rockers is a car worth 2grand....

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Joey Tribiani

Are those $64.99 steel rocker repair panels over at JCWhitney.com the real deal to do the trick in fixing this, or are they just some kind of metal facade covering just to "pretty up" a rusted rocker?

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WIZARDGLIK

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as a general rule, jcwhitney doesn't carry the highest quality parts... i can't comment on the quality of the panels you posted a link to, they could be the same as everyone else sells, but it can also be a crapshoot...check out

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Joey Tribiani

There were four (including me) bidders on the Ghia. I was prepared to go up to $700.00. The car sold for $1350.00

Thanks for all your help!

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WIZARDGLIK

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