Alternator Belt Break and overheat

I thought that too , from his original post. Good thread tho , so boo to him ;-)

Rich

P.J. Berg wrote:

.................That would make more sense than us believing that you can actually drive a bug for ten miles without a cooling fan.

........It seems odd that Shaggy hasn't added his usual spin to this situation...............hmmm.

:-)

That's an interesting question and was curious about what the responses would be too.

Not positive on bugs, but I'd would imagine that the surfaces where the cylinders meet the case and heads may warp so probably need machining or replacing. If I had to guess, the rings probably lose some of their 'spring' properties. On other cars, it can do a job on the cylinder walls when they get too hot and expand. Stuff expanding beyond where it should go totally hoses your engine up. Parts start binding and possibly seizing -- not good. I don't think the oil gets a chance to lose its properties because the engine will probably die before that happens.

Maybe some of the guys that really know what happens in bugs will jump in and tell us.

Remco

Do you mean "blowing" or "building" it blindfolded? I can barely build one it with eyes open and it will take longer than five shows! If he was blowing it blindfolded, it is not a great trick - I can do that too :)

Do you have pictures of him building it blindfolded? If so, it would be interesting to see them posted somewhere. Remco

Yes I drove about 10 miles and it was about 1045 @ night on my way home. Needed light to see what was going on back there. Like I stated previously, I was under the assumption cooling fan ran off the crank, not generator. Now I know. I changed the belt, and I am taking it for a valve job and compression test Friday. I drove it home yesterday, changed the oil (which was done two days prior to this) and it was brown and thin...almost like water. No I do not know much about VWs' but I am trying to learn. The rubber boots you would think would have melted but didn't.

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Could it be that Rookie is a Troll since he has yet to part take in the thread after the initiation..???

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Jake Raby built the engine blindfolded. No, I don't have pictures. Sorry.

Sure you can. Don't ask me how I know. I was very young. :(

"remco" wrote

Short answer: you sell the bug on the spot and hitchhike 500 miles home.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:34:49 -0500, "johnboy" scribbled this interesting note:

Or, if you're Scott, you call me and I hop in the truck with a tow bar and drive over and drag your sorry butt, and the car as well, home!:~)

-- John Willis (Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)

Damn. I guess it sounds like I don't do well, on my own nowadays...............LOL

I'd just call Sheryl now and she could bring The Van and a tow bar. We'd manage. And I might help *you* home..........LOL

It's been a day or two since you had to come and get me. But I'd still call you if you like.......LOL

Guys, John has helped me haul home many cars in the past. He'd do it again I bet. I'd do the same for him too........Now that I could. He's always been a good friend. (and put up with loads of my garbage in my life. I am now handling things a whole lot differently. I don;t know how he's been able to stand it)

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MUADIB®

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Did the oil have any metallic particles in it?

Also on old watercooled engines, if generator belt fails the cooling system fails. The belt goes from the puller to the generator and water pump. The only difference is that one uses air and the other uses water. If you had read the manual you would know, but there are only a few guys on the world that read them...

Joao

That's the truth!.................I deal with it every day. On new $50k and more Vehicles too! Lincoln Navigator on down. I haven't worked on a Ford GT yet. I kinda expect to in the next year or so..............I hope they leave me with a concern like "it does this___ *while Driving* " I can only hope.

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Honestly when I checked the oil I thought I saw something in there, but when I drained it ( 3rd change ) I didn't see anything in it. I do know it needs the valves adjusted, so I should find out if anything was done when they do those.

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Okay. What's the long answer?

I understand that is ruins the motor. I would like to understand how. What exactly is happening as heat increases?

-- Christian '71 Bus -- Turtle

Save Darfur --

Reminds me of the story of the college student who got a car. After a short time (relatively speaking), it started smoking and running poorly. She told a friend about it and he asked if she had ever put oil in it. Her response was, "No, it came with that."

Probably not true but makes a point about some drivers.

-- Christian

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Heat will thin the oil to the point it can't support the bearing loads. That's probably the failure mechanism when the engine seizes.

Will also distort the cylinders.

Valve failures are probably a close second to lube failure. Without head cooling, exh valve and/or seat will self-destruct.

Everything goes to hell, fast. Scored, destroyed bearing surfaces, warped heads, cylinders, stuck pistons, and sometimes an oil fire for good measure.

Hey Rookie, Your belief that the cooling fan runs off the crankshaft on a Type 1 probably came from the fact that some VW engines (Type 3 and Type 4 ) have the cooling fan attached to the crankshaft. On those engines if you loose a belt your battery doesn't recharge and eventually the car will stop after all the power to run the coil and or accessories drained. But , the engine stays cooled by the fan. The Bug Me Video series and Bob Hoover's Tulz series must be read and watched religiously before another VW problem pokes out it's ugly little head. : )

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"Wild" Bill Tucker

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'76 Bug "The Grape"

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