Cooling bit - Eduardo?

Need a bit of help here. The good fellows over at bustedbus.com are helping me put together the missing cooling tin bits for my bus. We pretty much have it sorted out, but I passed on a comment from Eduardo to them which has left them puzzled.

When looking at the pictures at

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, Eduardo said that I am missing the "round deflectors that go from the front of the engine to the small piece of tin in picture seven (and the missing piece in picture eight)."

I don't know what Eduardo is talking about. Please help me identify these mystery pieces.

Bustedbus.com has drawings online of what they sell. Go to bustedbus.com and select "Engine - clutch" then look at their "cooling air control," or "cover plates front rear" category. If the parts don't appear there, then maybe some helpful RAMVA guy could point me to a drawing?

Reply to
Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliot
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miss translation... I meant to say curved not round.

they look like piece 31, but attach to the upper cilinder covers and to a straight piece the bridges the gap between the heater box and the engine case.

Reply to
Eduardo Kaftanski

Eduardo means the parts 17 and 19 for the right side (that you seem to have) and part 18 for left side, which you seem to be missing. And the = picture is "engine cover plates".

Reply to
Olli Lammi

yep. exactly that parts!..

(I have a split 18 that looks like 17 and 19 on the left side...)

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Eduardo Kaftanski

"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott" wrote

I have nothing useful to add .... I'm just still amazed at the power of this internet thingy .... a guy in California receives help from Chile and Finland in just a half hour. Remarkable.

Reply to
Scott H

A resource like this can't be beat :) With today's digital technology we can even take and share photos of the offending parts.

Not to mention the "family" feel to this nutty bunch of grease monkeys.

Jan

Reply to
Jan Andersson

Group high 5!

Reply to
Olli Lammi

And naughty parts...

Guess it's safe to say I'm the black sheep of the family then huh?

Kidd Andersson "A hundred days to make me older since the last time that I saw your pretty face. A thousand lies to make me colder and I don't think I could look at this the same, but all the miles that seperate disappear now when I remember your face."

Reply to
Kidd Andersson

and because of the time zones, you can get amost 24/7 help :)

Reply to
Eduardo Kaftanski

SPECTACULAR HELP EVERYONE!

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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliot

Reply to
Ilambert

Mike, since you are in North County San Diego you might just want to zoom over to San Marcos and talk to the folks over at Interstate VW. They shoud have all the missing tin there.

--Dan E

Reply to
Braukuche

I am unsure of the #'d parts that are spoken of in other posts, but I am sure that they could be described much better.

here's my shot at it.............

The lower cylinder tin, that forms around the front of the #1 and #3 cylinders...................and one side is in two pieces. The part that is there in the one picture is one of those "two part" side pieces..............

So basically all you need is the pieces that meet the upper cylinder tin forward of the the aforementioned cylinders.

I am also quite certain you will be missing more pieces, that haven;t even come into the conversation yet.

...........ever heard of the "Hoover bit"???

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MUADIB®

....................We're an elite group of weirdos who would be stoned to death by the SUV driving majority if we could be identified by something more meaningful than a 'google search'...................lol

Reply to
Tim Rogers

Nope --they are (or have) shutting down the shop there. Moving everything up to Lake Elsinore. Alas.

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Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliot

I'm currently in the middle of a HUGE cooling system test! I have tested the stock and TIII style "Cool tins" on two different shrouds already. I used 1.46, 1.54 and 1.58 :1 drive ratios with each, as 2 different fan types...

So far NOTHING beats the stock Tins!! VW ONLY used the ciool tin on TIII engines, as the airflow went horizontally over the engine and needed resistance to be efficient. Upright engines have proved to me before, as well as now that they don't benefit from it at all.

I have 11 cooling systems left to dyno, and probably 25 more hours before I'm done. I'm logging all this data and will be saving it to my site after it is professionally analyzed..

Reply to
Jake Raby

Jake!!!

First of all, good to see you back here

Second, thank you for the valuable, undisputable, hard data you *keep* providing us with. Much appreciated.

Jan

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Jan

Hi Jake, been a while, hope your back....   Jim Jake Raby wrote: I'm currently in the middle of a HUGE cooling system test! I have tested the stock and TIII style "Cool tins" on two different shrouds already. I used 1.46, 1.54 and 1.58 :1 drive ratios with each, as 2 different fan types... So far NOTHING beats the stock Tins!! VW ONLY used the ciool tin on TIII engines, as the airflow went horizontally over the engine and needed resistance to be efficient. Upright engines have proved to me before, as well as now that they don't benefit from it at all. I have 11 cooling systems left to dyno, and probably 25 more hours before I'm done. I'm logging all this data and will be saving it to my site after it is professionally analyzed..

Reply to
bugfern

Hi Jake, and those who know Jake: It sounds like he's doing a fascinating study of cooling, and I look forward to reading the results. But I don't quite get one sentence in his posting: "Upright engines have proved to me before, as well as now that they don't benefit from it at all."

What's he on about?

Reply to
Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliot

"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott" wrote

Not exactly sure what your question is but .... An `upright' engine is one that uses the fan shroud like on your bus. All Type 1s had an upright engine (Beetles, Ghias) as did pre-72 buses. The `cool tin' that is mentioned is a specific part that was used on the `pancake' engine in Type 3s (Squareback, etc.). He's saying that an upright engine shows no benefit from using it.

Jake's sites:

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A thread on the testing here:
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He's a Type 4 evangelist. :-)

Reply to
Scott H

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