holley bugspray

to follow up my own post...alot of the progressive two barrel carbs used by ford on their four cyliner engines were marked one of three ways...(i used to have to run this carb to meet class requirements at a racetrack) some were labeled "motorcraft" on the outside of the floatbowl, and then inside the bottom of the floatbowl it would say "holley, liscensed by webber" that is what is commonly refered to as the "holley/webber"...some just said webber, and some said holley on the outside and "webber" on the inside...but they were the same size carb....

------------------- Chris Perdue

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sorry if this affends someone but come on the ford pintos were and allways will be junk, they were made cheap unsafe and unreliable (think there sales were band in other countrys), thats why dont you see many around. Its a good car for the track being that its low weight,thats all. And as said the holley was a good carb for what it was ment for but there are so many better options for a beetle.

No offense taken. But did you ever own one ?

Randy

If I offend someone, thats ok, I will forgive myself later I'm sure but I love a good holley carb. I've had them on a Corvette (65 327, 365hp) fords, dodges and they just make my blood pump. If this one works out as I believe it will, my next one will be their small 4bl and remove those very expensive webers on my Puma.

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Damn, mario I for one am not offended, but you just said word for word what i hear alot of people say about ACVW's....

------------------- Chris Perdue

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.....................Some people do say that they're unsafe and considering how much better cars have become in recent years, it's a fair statement in my opinion. A side impact test on an aircooled bug would show that the occupants have little if any protection compared to modern day standards. From a handling standpoint, I'd say that a bug is better than a lot of modern vehicles. At least, in the hands of an experienced driver. There may be some who think that ACVWs were cheaply built but their overall reputation is that they were well built. I've never actually been in a pinto but I do remember that one of its contemporaries, the vega, was a terrible car that was cheaply built and unreliable. No wonder Toyota started kicking Detroit's butt during the seventies. During that same period, the Pennsylvania built rabbits were just as bad as the worst vegas/pacers/chevettes/whatever. VWAG actually considered pulling out of the US marketplace during that era. Nowadays, the pinto is still around some if you look for them at autotrader, etc. but it's almost impossible to find a used-running vega or A1 style rabbit here in the northeast.

I used to run holleys on all my V8 powered hot rods. They were/are a great performance carb.

Randy

Total agreement here. I hit a bug with a bigger car years ago. There wasn't much left of that bug. I also had a vega. Fun little car to drive but that cheap aluminum motor was pure crap. Dropped a 327 in it and that was fun but it handled like crap with that in it.

Randy

..............heh heh.............I can well imagine what that extra 400 lbs over the front wheels did to your driving experience!

I put heavy springs & shocks but ............ It did just fine in a straight line but the rear end was a little weak.

Randy

I think only the 71 & 72 3 doors were fire bombs. After that they fixed the problem. You could also get a very simple fix it kit to take care of the 71 & 72 models.

I sure never heard of a pinto being unreliable. I put 100,000+ miles on mine in 3 years. And they were very hard hard miles. Only problem I had was blowing the clutch and trust me, that wasn't the cars fault.

Randy

I didn't think the clutch was all that bad. Just the trans was so dang large for that size of car.

Randy

Imagine having a Pinto with a Boss 302, Ford Top-Loader 4 speed, and narrowed

9-inch rear end with 4.11 Posi... Now THAT car was a handful. I sold it soon after I finished it, I just knew I was gonna get killed in that car...

Sure?

2.0? That is very much later (after 1990) by chrysler's including neons. The smaller engines back then were either 1.6/1.7 VW blocks, again same carbs. There were 2.2L for older K-cars, older caravans and low end trucks got those engines also. Most of them got carb either plain holley/Weber 5220 or based on 5220 with feedback soleoid (via O2 sensor) as holley/Weber 6520. Rebuild parts for both are still available inexpensively.

One guy adapted a 009 onto his caravan 2.2L because spark control computer & wirings fried. Only small modification to the distributor's tang to fit that 009. He needed 'van going quickly and cheaply because he is moving soon so hence the "hackish" job.

I'm fixing up my 1987 caravan w/ 2.2 auto, straightening out carb, timing and leaking coolant at coolant sensor's thread joint. :-) Body is like new (no bubbles or holes) with bit of wear for 16 years old 'van.

BTW, later on, 2.2L got TBI instead of carb and engine grew to 2.5L, and both sizes got turbo. The basic block itself is very sturdy and can handle 300HP. Hence the 12 second wicked 'van by at least two owners.

Cheers,

Wizard

sorry Tim, but i am laughing right now...the beetle handles great...i love the ride, i love the way it handles...but you have to realize that both of our opinions are biased because of our "love" for the vehicle....in stock form the ACVWs are decent handlers, but not "better than alot of modern vehicles".....they *can* be, but then we would be comparing apples to oranges(modified to stock) so we won't go there...

------------------- Chris Perdue

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....................My son's coach has a Trooper that would change your mind.