Speedo mystery

Hi guys (and girls if there are still any here),

It's been a LONG time since I've posted, see lots of the regulars still here. Good to see that there are some constants in the universe ;o)

On to the problem... I've just purchased a '70 KG. While it runs great there are a few problems. While taking it out for it's first run after my purchase I noticed the speedo would sometimes go waaay crazy, going from a steady 50 to 65, bouncing back and forth. Am I right in assuming it's a problem with the speedo cable?

Thanks for your help.

Gary

Reply to
Beetle Bailey
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It *may* be a bad cable.

Could also be the brass bushing at the cable/shaft inlet to the speedo. After ~35 years, it runs out of lube and sticks periodically.

And welcome back :-)

Speedy Jim

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Reply to
Speedy Jim

I would also look at the speedo bearing cap to make sure the hole hasn't rounded out after 35+=20 yrs

Mario Vintage Werks resto

Reply to
Kafertoys

first, congrats on the Ghia....the problem you are having is possibly a dry speedo cable, but likely to be a dry bushing in the speedo itself...does it make a nice squeeling noise too? i've had the "pleasure" of disassembling three speedo's here lately(68 type1 speedos) and lubing them.....one had actually stopped working due to a part vibrating loose inside....if you want to eliminate the cable as the culprit an electric drill in reverse with a flexdrive and number 2 square(robertson) bit can be placed in the input and spin the speedo...if the sticking/fluttering/raising hell continues, take the speedo apart and clean and lube...

Reply to
Joey Tribiani

Is there a good way to take a later speedo apart? When I took mine apart back in 1984 for this problem, I remember prying some press fit lip open all around the perimeter of the speedo. It wasn't too pretty, although I didn't have too much problem fitting it back together later.

Reply to
Michael Cecil

that is the only way...i use a very thin screwdriver that i made from a regular flat head...i ground it down thin....i can insert it under the ring with very little damage....when i put it back together i use a metal wheeled "spline tool" that is used to replace mesh screen in windows to press it back down and it usualy takes any dings out too....

Reply to
Joey Tribiani

Oh well, I hoped someone had figured out a better way. I'm going to take mine apart some time soon. It need re-lubing, the indicator light plastic needs replacing and all the bulbs and bulb holders need tweaking.

Reply to
Michael Cecil

The screwdriver trick works fine as long as you go slow with it. I use the screwdriver to press the lip back down when I was putting mine back together(about 10 years ago...)

FYI...you can get new gels, sockets and bulbs for the speedo at the bughaus. Or you can just buy a new speedo head. ;-)

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Check out items H, K and M. I've never done the gels myself, so I don't know if the pointer has to be removed from the shaft to get at that part of the assembly or not.

Chris

Reply to
halatos

Wow, lots of very good info there, truly appreciated. When I find the culprit I'll be sure to let you know ;o) Thanks for the congrats and warm welcome.

Reply to
Beetle Bailey

Thanks for that link. I guess I hadn't come across them before.

Reply to
Michael Cecil

Chris, the pointer does not need to come off to access the gels....the gels in my 68's speedo(and a few others i have disected over the years) have been held by a rubber "cap" that sits in front of the bulb openings....to change the gels i'd take the ring/glass off, then pull the fuel guage(68+), then take out the two screws that secure the speedo/odo "guts" to the casing(rear of casing)...then the rubbers i'm talking about are still connected to the casing....i can post a pic if needed for clarity, i have one apart now...

Reply to
Joey Tribiani

I would like to see the pics.

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| | Chris, the pointer does not need to come off to access the gels....the gels | in my 68's speedo(and a few others i have disected over the years) have been | held by a rubber "cap" that sits in front of the bulb openings....to change | the gels i'd take the ring/glass off, then pull the fuel guage(68+), then | take out the two screws that secure the speedo/odo "guts" to the casing(rear | of casing)...then the rubbers i'm talking about are still connected to the | casing....i can post a pic if needed for clarity, i have one apart now... | |

Reply to
Eddie

eddie....i will snap some pics and post tonight...

Reply to
Joey Tribiani

Thanks Joey, I eventually want to change mine without screwing it up.

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| | eddie....i will snap some pics and post tonight... | |

Reply to
Eddie

here ya go Eddie...as you can see, you don't have to remove the pointer nor the faceplate to change the colored gels....hope it helps a bit...any more questions, feel free to ask.

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Reply to
Joey Tribiani

That's cool.

Still don't understand calling them "gels" though. They were never made of gelatin, were they?

Reply to
Michael Cecil

Check this out maybe.

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Brian Laser 917 on 67 type1

Reply to
bvacha

Thanks again. Are all of the speedo's basically the same? I forgot to mention, mine is a 65.

| | here ya go Eddie...as you can see, you don't have to remove the pointer nor | the faceplate to change the colored gels....hope it helps a bit...any more | questions, feel free to ask. | |

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Reply to
Eddie

Ah...that explains all those speedos on Broadway.

Reply to
Michael Cecil

yours should be the same, but you won't have to remove the fuel gauge...LOL

Reply to
Joey Tribiani

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