Listen up Volvo! I want a new 240.

Sign me up for one too!

A bit off the OP's post but..... can anyone advise me where to put the auto transmission fluid? My 240 is kind of changing down a gear and I'm fairly sure that the fluid is the problem. Should probably buy a Haynes manual but apart from being a tight wad, I didn't undertstand the one I got for my 2 stroke moped.......and they're easy :-(. I have Googled and found good stuff re. how to do it properly but no basic, labeled under bonnet pics for the completely uneducated, like me. I believe I just need to top it up a bit. Any advice and especially caveats like, 'just make sure you don't do X or you'll ruin your car' would be very welcome.

I should probably post this as an OP too. Hmm, I will.

Regards Sammy

Doesn't it go down the tranny dipstick tube? Need a skinny funnel.

"I want a new 240! Why did you ever stop building this car? I _want_ a new 240!"

I feel your pain.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, pilgrim: buy a used Volvo that is in good shape, and maintain it diligently yourself.

I could drive any car I want, and I choose to drive an '82 244 Turbo.

Crazy, like a fox...

240: accept no substitute.

Sadly it will never happen. Volvo has completely changed it's philosophy and will never again build a car anything like the 240.

Your next best bet is do completely refurbish a late model 240.

There used to be several companies doing just that to Jaguar Series III XJ6s. I wonder if a market will develop for 100% rebuilt/remanufactured 240s.

John

"I wonder if a market will develop for 100% rebuilt/remanufactured 240s."

It already exists.

I have to dissent. While the 240 was a good, solid, likeable car, the fuel economy and reliability of the secondary systems was very unimpressive. I'd like to see something very close to the 240, but with a smaller, more efficient (but still bulletproof) engine, mated to either a 5 speed or a CVT automatic. If our Camry can average 30+ MPG on 'Summer gas', then it should be possible to build an updated 240 that gets 30MPG, doesn't need things repaired, serviced or replaced every three months, and doesn't make you choose between adequate storage and space for your legs.

I market requires both supply and demand. Are there shops doing full

240 refurbs as a business?

"Are there shops doing full

240 refurbs as a business?"

I don't know, but I fully refurbished my '82 244 Turbo.

240's in great shape can command a premium price, especially back on the eastern seaboard.

Unfortuantely, I missed the beginning of this thread because my ISP deletes pretty fast. I just posted on another thread a couple of minutes ago about my XC70. I also have a Two Door Turbo that I bought new. To tell you the truth...I want to be buried in it. It's "almost" the greatest car that I ever had. And...the Aire Conditionado worked fine! I absolutely LOVE this car! If I ever commit suicide, it will be in that car in my garage with the engine running. Don't worry, I'm not thinking about it...just a hypothetical. That's just how much I love my old, silver, two-door Turbo. It actually looks better than the guy who posted the pix of his

2 Door a few weeks ago...at least I have the real Turbo Rims...and a real one in the trunk! I really love the old Volvo 2 doors. To this day, I'm looking for a 162 (Is that the right number?) to buy and restore. I've only found rustbuckets.

Oh, yeah??? WHERE????? I will personally give you ten grand if you can show me where Volvo will give me a New 200 series.

Michael Cerkowski wrote:

Wait a second..... Fuel economy on my '84 was pretty respectable for it's day. Just what do you mean my "Secondary Systems"? You can't get any more bullet-proof than the 240, Red Engine...either regular or turbo. With today's electronics, seven MPG (7) wouldn't be that hard. FORGET the CVT. It's a loser. Look at the Ford cars with CVT. They get 2 to 3 miles less per gallon than an automatic. I'm 6'4" and my old 240 doesn't even have the driver's seat back to the last notch. With my XC70, my seat is all the way back, and the seat is adjusted to give my thighs support, but I can't get out of the fuckn thing without forcing the steering wheel up. The adjustable steering wheel won't go up far enough. I'm going to start another thread about this next subject. Volvo used to say that something like 80% of all Swedes are over six feet tall. What happened to that? I could get in and out of my 122 and my 144 with no problem. Volvos are getting progressively smaller for normal sized Americans. Hey...I'm 6'4" and 185#. I'm pretty thin for my height. But, I'll tell you something... I just bought a Town Car for $10,000 less than my Volvo, and I can get in and out of it just fine!!!! And, it has MORE options included in the base price. Don't get me wrong, I love my Volvo. But,where is the ingress and outgress comfort? Granted, Town Car seats are Shit after about 30K. But for 10K less, I could have the driver's seat fixed for about $400. U.S.

I know that I have rambled a lot, but, HEY...Let's call the Volvo what it is. At least here in the U.S. of A...I'ts WAY overpriced and I think that my Town Car will have a better resale than my XC.

I have a dark blue 1988 240, 4 door with 71,000 original miles, always garaged, Volvo serviced till 60,000 miles (my mother owned it), one crack in the dash ( I think I did it whilst removing the clock for tachometer changeover), I put some Virgo wheels on it, some IPD sways and their "performance" exhaust on it. Anyone interested, I need a truck for work! I flushed the brake lines and the auto transmission. It runs as well as it could according to my local Volvo mechanic. New MAS last summer.

Ed

not likely. Volvo did only one or two prototypes with the inline 6. You're probably thinking of a 262 with the PRV engine

Where is it?

BF

Ed wrote:

Howdy,

I would have to ditto the mileage on the red engine. It was always fairly good considering the size of the car. Yeah you _can_ get better mileage by thinning the mixture till the head glows, or running a higher compression with a smaller engine and winding it up further or cutting the tin out and running skinny tires.

If you do that you increase your depency on electronics to manage all that crap, increase the wear on the internal parts causing shorter total engine life, and have a car that you can't drive confidently in hard city driving. A Volvo would make a good taxicab, a camry would make a good recycled pepsi-can under the same driving conditions.

The 240 is/was just one of the most balanced systems ever put into sheet metal. Everything went together so that the car was just right. Not sporty, or luxury, but right.

I think there is a nitch market for a new 240. That market is all the people in the world who just don't think all the BS features are that important. I want a car, not a fricken vibrating barkolounger entertainment center. Thanks for the cupholders at least, but you can keep everything else! I want a 240!

-psy

Well, has'nt this lead to a large thread of replies!

I have to admit that I too would like nothing more than to see a 'new' 240 line.

I think there would definately be a market for them if someone out there had the ability to start up a business. Lets face it there are plenty of garages in the UK selling refurbished Moggy Minors & Travellers. They claim that the refurbs are BETTER than the originals. Would'nt that be a good 240 - better than a original. Wow! Paul.C