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rich mixture on a 88 240

Hello

I drive a 1988 240 with the 2.3 carburettor engine. This week it failed its MoT test because of the exhaust gasses. The CO reading was too high. It's been smelling quite petrol-y, so I guess that means it's been running rich. I took it to my usual independent Volvo mechanics, and they said they turned down the fuelling so that the car passed its emissions test, but then in order to make it run smoothly (especially when cold?) they've turned it back up. They say that this is simply because it's old. I used to think these mechanics were marvellous, but now I'm not so sure. It shouldn't have to run rich all the time, should it? Not just 'becuase it's an old enigne'? Doesn't this indicate that something else is wrong or needs looking at? And will this affect my fuel consumption noticeably?

Your comments would be much appreciated.

Thanks

olly

Reply to
Olly R
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How's the compression? If that and the ignition timing are within spec, then the carburetor shouldn't have to be set rich to make it run smoothly.

Reply to
James Sweet

That's a fact of life on older cars. Many years ago I bought a used 240 Turbo, and it started and ran perfectly when cold. I did a tune up, changing all the normal tune up parts, as well as setting the slightly too rich mixture back to spec. The next morning the car started, and immediately stalled, I restarted 3 times before I could keep it running. I though about what had changed - and move the idle adjustment screw back to where it was - and the problem was gone. And this is with fuel injection - carbs are more prone to these problems. My friend that runs the Volvo garage tells me that setting the old B21As to spec is a sure way to make the customer mad at you - he sets them all just rich enough so there's no running problems. He always keeps them overnight so he can make one cold start himself to make sure he's got it right.

I would suggest you raise your opinion of your mechanic at least back to where it was, maybe even a tiny bit higher.

Reply to
Mike F

Thanks, that's very reassuring.

I picked it up this morning, and it ran beautifully all the way home. I'll see what happens tomorrow morning!

will do!

olly

Reply to
Olly R

If they say that, they obviously haven't done much investigation. 99% likely your 240 Turbo had a bad control pressure regulator, symptoms of it's failure fit yours to a T. "It's just old" is simply a lame excuse given by those unwilling to track down the fault.

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James Sweet

"James Sweet" wrote

Mine's not a turbo, it's the 2.3 carburettor engine. To give them their due, they've known this car for years and years now, since two owners before me, so I don't think they're being lazy. I'll see how it starts very soon.....

olly

Reply to
Olly R

On the 240 turbo, "they" is me. And I have access to the proper fuel pressure testing gauge, and there was nothing wrong with the control pressure. And when that control pressure regulator started leaking and I put in a new one, the situation didn't change. And I've seen this on literally dozens of K-Jetronic and carbed Volvos. The LH injected cars seem to be able to compensate better.

Reply to
Mike F

K-Jet is a pain in the ass, I think it's more that the mechanical parts of it wear when they get old than the engine, finding a good fuel distributor can be a real hassle though.

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James Sweet

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