V70R question :: S70R??

I saw a "new" V70R the other day at the local Volvo dealer, msrp at US $37,900+ change. As I was reading the window sticker for options. it was obviously loaded, I saw the horse power rating for the vehicle and as I recall it was 300HP.

I *think* it was a leftover '03 model but not sure, at any rate, did they ever make an S70 with 300hp?

Wow, a station wagon that would outrun a new Nissan 350z, ouch!, hope you weren't on a date!

Plus did they ever make an S70R? and what years?

TIA!!

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Fred
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I think they did - but presumably you are aware that the S70 and current V70 are completely different cars?

The previous V70 (up until about 2000) shared the S70 platform, whereas the current V70 shares the S80 platform - so the engine options in current the V70 are likely to be different from those in the S70.

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Bonnet Lock

Reply to
Rob Guenther

What do you mean by this? All versions of the 2004 V70 still have a 5 cyl engine (including the V70R). The S80 has a 6 cyl engine.

Reply to
Bev A. Kupf

I mean what I say! The S80 (in Europe at any rate!) has a range of

6-cylinder engines (with different power outputs) and also a range of 5-cylinder petrol engines and a diesel engine.

Because the S80/new V70 was completely re-engineered, it is virtually certain that engine changes will have been made from the previous V/S-70. So, even if the two ranges used nominally the same engine, there will be detail differences which result in differences in power output - and certainly differences in weight/gearing etc. - so that they won't perform exactly the same.

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Bonnet Lock

Interesting. In N. America, the S80 has a 6 cyl. engine, and is not offered with any 5-cyl variants. The S60 is offered with a 5 cyl. engine.

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Bev A. Kupf

Actually, the S80 is now available with a 5 cylinder engine - the light pressure turbo. This car also has the Haldex AWD system - the S80 2.5T AWD. It's also almost exactly the same price as the S80 2.9 (non turbo).

To the original poster - there was a S70R, but never in North America. It "only" had the engines of the older V70 - to a maximum of 247 hp (250 as measured in Europe). The S60R is available with the 300 hp motor as in the current V70R.

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Mike F

Ah yes, the S60 R just looked it up. If it checks out research wise, that's my next car. With an automatic.

300hp...

*sweet*

Reply to
Fred

i think it is a new platform...it should be a "kick ass" wagon....as long as it does not act like the s80's...time will tell...i want to talk w/an owner w/50 - 75k miles on their 04 wagon...then i will decide to get one or not.....they sure do L@@K nice.....

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~^ beancounter ~^

Hi all. I have the brochure for the UK V70R, and it's a 2.5 litre 5 cyl engine. Weren't the Pre 2000 V70Rs all 2.3 litre? The S70 was indeed available as an R, and there are a few floating around in my area. They sell much cheaper than V70R on the secondhand market round here, presumably because the V70 is more useful for normal family life as well as for going out for a blast on the motorway/freeway. I used to know a chappy who had his S70R chipped to about 310BHP. Not sure how long it lived. Mind you, I'm not even sure how long he lived. the D5 is quick enough for me, as my 1997 2.5TDI puts up a good fight with most who challenge me! That's even with 245,000 miles on the clock you understand. OK, the Subarus get past me eventually, but they sure get a surprise first. Enjoy yourself, and stay safe. Joe Landy. Peterborough UK. V70 2.5TDI 245,000 miles, new exhaust, new alternator. I love it and I want to transplant a D5 into it! E-mail joelandyman postmaster.co.uk All E-mail to my NTL world address will be deleted. Sorry spammers!

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Joe landy

Nice to know that. I didn't know and hadn't seen this at the dealers the last time I was there.

Reply to
Bev A. Kupf

Are you absolutely sure? A quick check on the Volvo specs on their website indicates the V70 and S60 are far more closely related in terms of wheelbase and track than the S80 and V70.....

Also, to look at the two of them there is a far stronger resemblance betwen the S60 and V70 than the S80 and V70.....

As for the S70R (old 850 brick shape), the 'R' variant had around 280BHP from what I recall as the base S70T5 (in its final form with the Bosch ME7 engine management) had 247BHP.

The older T5s were indeed 2.3 l as opposed to the newer T5 engines 2.5 l capacity. This also includes the S40/V50 variants too and the S60R.

Incidentally, the 2.3l engine seems to have a propensity to bend conrods at or above the 300BHP mark. In the newer R versions the conrods are forged to improve the strength to help them take 300BHP with safety...

A.

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AB

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