Just a rant

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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Rakblight2) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m10.aol.com:

Call that a rant? I come here looking for a decent rant and get this??? I remember when VW had groundbreaking rants, now the competition is hotting up, the CTR forums have rants, trolls and the like and VW newgroups like this are left looking bloated and jaded....

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William Munns

Want to see plastic? Simply remove the trim from your driver's door, don't mind the plastic retaining clips that break apart ($4 each at your local VW dealer), or the plastic wrap underneath. Look closer and you'll discover the plastic clips that hold your electric window's and their operating cables in place. If you don't a.) Use the window and b.) open or close your door, the clips should last at least 50K miles before you take off and suddenly the window drops into the door all by itself.

I suspect that when any of us VW owners get into an accident (and live to describe it), thats when we really get to see lots of plastic! These cars really aren't designed to absorb any crash energy. Perhaps the design decision at VW is that during a collision the absorbed energy will be dissipated in a exploding cloud of plastic strips, clips, and panels, with the operator hopefully left alive hugging their airbag. Actually I think that the driver's body absorbs most of the energy in a VW crash and the plastic components just break away for dramatic effect.

Your search for the missing ground in your car is a subtle but important signal to all other VW owners. We should all maintain a wide clearance of any other vehicles except mopeds and some of those stupid, three-wheeled cars that they have in France. I would remove the radar detector because it implies that you think that you can drive fast safely in your VW car. You can't. Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention that all VW ignition systems suck as do the vaunted German engineers that designed them.

Next time buy American (if you live there), you'll still get lots of plastic, but at least you'll pay less.

Reply to
Bob F.

Now THAT'S a rant!!!

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Reply to
4Motion

Thats why VWs consistently score higher crash tests than any POS ameriCAN shit....

Reply to
Peter Cressman

Hallelujah!!

2XFox owner... :-(

Bob F. wrote:

Reply to
Tom Resi

My 99 Golf has a 5 star crash rating in every direction.... There is much more steel in these cars then those tin can Japanese, and especially Korean cars. A lot of American cars of the similar size do quite poorly in crash tests.

Plastic can absorb energy... if you knew anything about the material (and I appologise if you actually do... tho honestly it doesnt seem like it) you would not be bitching about plastic in a car. Plastic of today isn't the same shattering, cheap, unflexible stuff that it was back in the day'. New polymer materials, metal-plastic alloy type materials, and modern hot-runner injection molding systems, with precise temperature control have eliminated the shittiness of plastic.

In fact they have made a plastic engine, the only metal part were steel cylinder linings. And of course are the requisite metal parts, such as wiring to name one.

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Rob Guenther

Reply to
Tom Resi

They mostly use plastic for weight reduction - not manufacturing cost reduction. Less weight = higher MPG.

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Erik Dillenkofer

Reply to
Rob Guenther

And the Fox is pretty crappy to begin with, so it's not the best vehicle to go by for anything.

Reply to
Peter Cressman

If you read a little more carefully you will see that I was talking about very few essential parts which take a lot of usage and are made of stupid plastic instead of metal. (see only the plastic loop on the clutch cable). If you put all this parts together, the difference between plastic and metal is less than half a pound! Where is the weight saving on a 2000 lbs car? Where is the weight saving at plastic buffers on shock absorbers, made of crappy plastic instead of rubber? Yes, plastic is cheaper than rubber. Tell me that anybody cares if their car weights 2075 lbs. instead of

2072 lbs. as Fox 4dr. is listed?

Rob Guenther wrote:

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Tom Resi

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Tom Resi

Amen! My monitor was beginning to smoke as I read it.

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Jonathan Ball

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