results, i do not have a dyno and i did not do a stopwatch comparison. the results i said were great imo. and we all know what they say about opinions! the intake mod gave the car a very nice sound improvement over stock. has a nice growl now. the 710 & n75 improved throttle response and accelleration. i can feel the difference when i wack the gas down, the car throws me back in the seat harder than it did before. it is a noticeable "quantifiable" improvement. and my gas mileage seems to have improved slightly, odd? my next and most likely final mods will be chip, exhaust and then wheels although the wheels i want to change mainly because i dont like the look of the stock wheels. i plan on 17's but keeping the ride height the same, and then off to driving school. mr. kreiger, we all have our own opinions on this subject. i respect yours please respect my decisions. it may be a personality flaw but i like instant gratification. i want to get the car running up to a level i am satisfied with and then when i am finished with the car i will work on the driver mod's. i have not forgotten about your suggestion and actually i have spoken to several of my friends concerning driving school and they are interested as well. im trying to get a group together and check it out. your suggestion has not fallen on deaf ears. you made some good points about applying things learned in driving school to every day driving, avoiding deer etc. and i am as you say "pumped up" about it. i just like to do things my way. the purpose of my post was to help people who want more performance out of their a4 but dont have a lot of money to dump into modifications. i dont want people to get ripped of buy those idiots who advertise 60 hp gains from those vortex type air turbines you put in your intake hose, or those relay type boxes that are supposed to trick your ecu to give you more hp, etc. god gave us free will, use it as you see fit. dave