Peugeot 206SW 1.4 HDi - When to change cambelt?

6 years old next month, 24K miles, only gets light use mostly on 5 to 10 mile trips to shops, does about 1,200 miles a year. When should cam belt be changed & what should it cost about?
Main Dealer service reception said with my use every 20 years, cost 370. Their mechanic recharging my air con looked at alternator belt and said if that is original belt (it is) it's as new so cambelt should be OK for a bit. Nationwide Autoservices computer says change at 144K miles or 10 years. Others have said it should be done now and they have had idler/tensioner go at 23K miles. Am I living on borrowed time or has it not reached recommended period/miles? Other than fuel gauge started sticking last month, recharged air con this year, radio/CD changed warranty at 29 months, BSI & ECU firmware updated due to couple of minor things under waranty (transponder misread, trip meter blobbed). I am happy with the car as my mobility scooter loads in it easily with ramps & don't have to remove any bits just fold seat & tiller.
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:15:28 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@virgin-dot-net.no-spam.invalid (Contax) wrote as underneath my scribble :
The belt you can see under the bonnet is the Auxiliary Belt not the cam belt. I think you need to check your actual engine with a Peugeot service department computer using the VIN number. My Hdi 1.4 206SE says in the user manual that came with it that the cambelt needs changing at about 36000 miles as I recall - but the actual spec for the installed engine (8HXF) is 144,000 miles or 10 years. It is a major overhaul as the engine is so tightly fitted. The main agent I asked estimated about 650 including a service. I think it will be a question at that stage of "is it worth doing" probably cost over 1000 by then, and maybe a strategy will be to wait till the engine destroys itself then bin the car - might take 20 years or so with an unpushed engine! Charlie+

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:15:28 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@virgin-dot-net.no-spam.invalid (Contax) wrote:
:6 years old next month, 24K miles, only gets light use mostly on 5 to :10 mile trips to shops, does about 1,200 miles a year. :When should cam belt be changed & what should it cost about? :Main Dealer service reception said with my use every 20 years, cost :370.
This page gives a good idea of timing belt change periods for Peugeot engines. You will need to know which engine you have though. http://www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/base/workshop.htm
Peugeot always cover their backside (as do all vehicle manufacturers) by adding a rider following the change period statement, ie. "or whichever comes first". This means that even if you didn't take your 206SW out of the garage in the stated time period, you should still change the belt when that time period had expired.
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Cam belt on my 307 HDi 1.6 2004 went at 80,000 and caused 2000 worth of damage. The computer says that model cam belt doesn't need changing until 120,000. Nobody mentions that the water pump might need changing or at least checking! I think that is what went wrong and caused the CAM belt to break.

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as underneath my scribble :

Expensive! and interesting, do you know the failure mode for the coolant pump? Presumably a bearing failure and was there any prior indication at all of the impending doom?! Was the coolant as original? I doubt if there are any meaningful checks that can be done on an in situ water pump or indeed on the other small but critical items on the timing belt like the idler and tensioner wheels - failure of any one of which could lead to an engine wreck similar to yours.
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Charlie+ wrote:

My 405 1.8i water pump failed recently. Symptom was water loss and on removal, the bearing was badly worn/loose and the timing belt was quite slack but had not let go thankfully. 90,000 miles since Jan 1995
Not really what I had planned for a Saturday but the job was fairly easy but very little room to work in.
Bob
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Bob - well spotted - and the leak saved you a pile of grief! No rattling or screeching then? Im not looking forward to my 206 1.4 hdi going the same journey - I wont get away without a couple of days graft I think, so tight and needs one to make a couple of special pullers etc I believe. Meantime I will renew the coolant to ontime and onspec - hoping to ward off the evil spirit! Charlie+
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Charlie+ wrote:

No, there was no screech just significant water loss - 1 litre over 20 odd miles but only when under pressure. I did not need a puller but mine was a petrol engine. You will need locking pins for the cam and crank. Easy if you have a lathe (I do!) otherwise its a case of finding something to fit. Mine was 10mm diam crank and 8mm diam for the cam without any shoulders (Haynes manual was wrong here - all too often find errors these days!)
If your engine will be so difficult to do it might be worth looking for an independent Pug specialist with a decent hourly rate. I tend to trust these guys more than official agents.
Good Luck
Bob
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