I'm not sure that non-UK itinerate EU fruit pickers assemble cars!
Leaving the EU will not stop EU fruit pickers coming to work - just that they will probably need a work permit, have proof that the job exists, have no automatic rights to (unemployment or in-work) benefits nor a right to long term residency. In the case of fruit pickers .We will probably just go back to the system similar to that which worked prior to the EU concept of freedom of movement.
The same way as UK companies can send someone to the USA or Australia for similar. The company supplying the robots will have a service contract with service people available with the appropriate paper work already in place.
When Britain tried to weasel out of WWI debt, Calvin Coolidge famously said 'They hired the money, didn't they?'
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Coolidge saw through that blustering windbag Churchill. Churchill should have retired to a farm and raised collies after his WWI disgrace rather than fomenting another war trying to prove a hero. He was as wrong headed as G.W. Bush trying to show pops how it is done.
Whilst in the EEC/EU for 40 years many UK companies out-sourced their manufacturing to the far east! The EU has done bugger all for a lot of the UK manufacturing industries so would have been unlikely to have done so in the future.
Not quite sure the point you're making? Are those UK companies like Dyson going to bring back manufacturing to the UK after we leave the EU? Or will it simply speed up even more leaving? Like Nissan, BMW, Jaguar, etc?
The point I'm making it is not as clear cut as in or out of the EU.
Many companies, both in the UK and other EU countries who sell us goods that the majority of us can afford currently have outsourced their manufacturing to the far east or countries outside of the EU. They are not operating within the the single market for manufacturing but find easy to bring the goods into the EU through all the red tape, bureaucracy and tariffs the doom and gloom merchants would have us believe would stop all future trade with the EU - or even the rest of the world if no free trade deals exist.
If you are that worried about protecting British car working jobs buy a car assembled in the UK rather than a foreign built car. If all those advocating remaining in the EU did so then the production at UK car plants wouldn't need exports of cars in order to survive and imports of completed cars would reduce - a win, win situation.
Last time I was in the States, over a dozen years ago even, I was *so* disappointed not to see any of the great classic gas-guzzlers on the roads. Everyone seemed to be driving small Jap cars and it's probably even worse today with these stupid little Prius things that douchebags like Brian Griffin drives.
Exactly in the same way as we do now. Do you really believe French, Dutch and Spanish farmers etc. are not going sell us their tasteless fruit and vegetables. Do you think we will be unable to buy gas from Russia or washing machines from Turkey or TVs from Korea when we leave the EU? Do you think that all that food you currently see in every supermarket from 101 different countries outside the EU is suddenly going to rot waiting for months in a customs sheds?
Ah - right. Of course we will be able to buy things from anywhere and with some food cheaper than the EU.
What you haven't answered is just how we pay for these imports. Which is the $64k question.
At the moment the majority of the UK's income is from financial etc services. Not selling Jaguars or whatever. Many such financial operations base themselves here because of access to the EU. And are high wage operations. With many nationalities working in them. Several very attractive places to live in Europe would just love to have them re-locate there.
Do you mean the same financial services the cost of which to bail them out will be paid for by your children's children? Do you mean the same financial services that illegally fiddled the rates so that mortgages in the UK were more expensive? Do you mean the same financial services that have been fined billions by the US, UK and European regulators? Do you mean the same financial services that are so well run that a lack of due diligence has resulted in foreign bank/investment acquisitions making massive losses? Do you mean that the same financial services that caused many viable small UK companies to go to the wall so that they could be asset stripped? Do you mean the same financial services that constructed worthless investments that no insider trader would touch with a barge pole? Do you mean that same financial services that have written off billions for mis-selling PPI? Do you mean the same financial services where loyalty to them is rewarded with high charges than for disloyal or new customers?
Again not as simple as in or out of the EU......
Many of these companies are more likely to go to new York or the far East rather than migrating to the rest of Europe.
The credibility of financial services in the Euro zone may take a big hit if a few basket case EU countries start defaulting on their loans. A lot of Euro zone financial problems have be swept under the carpet to resurface in a few year's time.
In a few years time, or perhaps even today, with modern technology it will not matter where in the world you sit to run a financial service.
I think it more or less is - they'll still be getting up to that shenanigans wherever they are.
Were it not for the fact that location is a source of inward investment and of course jobs. While the UK financial services sector doesn't do much in terms of productivity it directly employs about 10% of the workforce - at least. That 10% is linked to jobs across sectors. Whether I like the sector or not, that still has to be factored in. -- Cheers, Rob
Is it sensible to rely on a sector that next year could be run from an office building in India with an additional staffing level of perhaps less than 100 people in each country they are servicing?
Currently more and more of us don't set foot in a UK bank branch or haven't had need to contact an actual person for years for an Internet bank account or investment. The number of people the financial services employ in the UK is dwindling.
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