I have a 99' 528i. That recently the engine died on. All 4 cylinders are
filled with Oil. The Shop indicates that I need a new motor in it, I was
wondering if these are good quotes for a normal replacement:
$6000 - Motor
$2000 - Labor
Total Est: $8000
$4500 - Motor
$2000 - Labor
Total Est: $6500
Now these are rough est. and it could be more or less depending on what
needs replaced in the end (Hoses, Water pump etc...) Are those ok prices on
a used engine installed?
I can't possibly see doing this. For not much more you can just buy another
528i. Just a little more than that and you can get an '00 or '01.
Part it out and invest in another car.
I'd also get a second opinion before I did anything.
It was a local shop that ived had do work before. They do Dealer level work
for less the the dealership would. Ive compared alot of items in the past
and they have always been alot cheaper.
"SharkmanBMW" <sharkmanbmw at gmail dot com> wrote in message
I'm with those guys.. that seems crazy high. I guess the labor is in the
ball park but I'm amazed you can't find a good used engine for less than
Like you can buy a completely reconditioned/rebuilt engine w/5 year
warranty from http://www.bavengine.com/other.html with clutch kit for
Not that I've used them but just as an example.
Have you hit your local junk yards?
I guess if you really love the car its worth it .. I"m always willing to
spend money on something I want to keep for a long time.
Can you be a bit more specific about the engine - like what happened, and
what were the symptoms.
Replacing the car and selling the old one for breaking sounds a better deal,
but only if the engine is a write off and you can't get a replacement at a
sensible price (somewhat less than half the value of the car).
I was driving to work like normal, Everything was going great then all of
the sudden I lost all power to the engine. The Car still had Electric power,
just nothing from the engine. I pulled over and there was ALOT of smoke
rolling from the Exhaust in the rear. I also noticed that Oil (or what
looked ALOT like it) was dripping slowly from the exhaust also. I tried to
crank it over after abit and nothing happened at all. When it did happen the
Emissions, Oil and one other light I cant think of came on, on the dash.
I love the car, its the best ive driven and owned. The unfortunate part is I
still owe $7000 on it, so if I cant get it fixed ill be paying for a very
expensive lawn ornament :)
Does your 528 use hydraulic fluid pump
to assist with power steering *and*
My old 1980's vintage 320i uses pneumatic power
brake assist taken from the intake manifold.
I am familiar with a case involving
my cousin's 1990's vintage Bronco II
of a defective pollution control
valve (PCV) or other check
valve that somehow allowed
oil or power steering fluid to get
injected into the intake manifold...
I'm doing this from memory, but it
seems like I remember the fluid involved was
from the power steering/braking system?
Apparently the braking system on that
vehicle relied on some combination of manifold
pressure (vacuum) and pressurized
fluid to actuate the brakes. Failure
of some valve allowed fluid
to get mixed with intake air in his
The Bronco II had German made
fuel injected Ford engines in them.
I remember when it happened, but
I don't remember all the the details.
I just remember he said plumes of
white smoke started billowing
out his exhaust. When it happened,
he thought he had a blown an engine.
My cousin is a Ford mechanic. I
should ask him about the experience
again. He made the simple repair
of the valve himself.
upstate south carolina
That does sound unpleasant..
Besides the engine, you're likely to need all the O2 sensors and the
catalytic converters if the oil actually was running from the exhaust.
It sounds as if you have a cracked head..
Not a good thing.
If it was me - I'd consider doing one of two things:
1. Find my own junkyard engine. The engines on these cars aren't
terribly troublesome so there should be some fine examples kicking
around in various junkyards. This is where Google, or membership in the
BMW-CCA would be useful. You want BMW specific junkyards like Vines
Automotive.. Get the same engine you have if you want the simplest
2. Find an E36/M3 S52 engine. Direct drop-in, and MUCH more powerful
than the engine you have (240HP vs around 190HP) - it's plug and play
compatible.. but you might (not even sure if this is necessary) have to
get your engine ECU "flashed" to a ROM version for this engine. There
are various performance upgrade places that have software updates to do
this sort of thing.
#2 is gonna cost more - the S52 engines do go for some $$$ - but not any
more than either of the options you've listed. #1 should be considerably
less expensive than the quotes you got.
You might also check around (Yellow Pages) to see if there are shops in
your area that specialize in doing engine swaps... there are shops like
this and they are usually less expensive and faster than using your
friendly local independent mechanic.
FWIW - a BMW rebuilt S54 engine (344HP) as used in the E46/M3 and the
Z4/M-Coupe is only about $6,500 with a good "core".. the prices your
friendly mechanic is giving you seem awfully high.
It was White/Grey smoke.
**Replaced within the last year**
Front Control arms and bushings
Rear Control arms and bushings
Spark Plugs (Bosch Platinum 4+)
Airfilter with K&N Airfilter
VANOS Timing system
All filters in the car
Oil has been changed every 3-4000mi and Inspection 2 done within last
Ive owned the car for only about 1.5years.
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