Fiat Denies ChryCo Debt Assumption

The flushing of Chrysler, Nardelli lies again

Fiat Denies ChryCo Debt Assumption

formatting link
Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:53am EDT

By Gilles Castonguay

MILAN (Reuters) - Italy's Fiat SpA (FIA.MI: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) on Friday said it would not assume any debt from would-be partner and troubled carmaker Chrysler LLC CBS.UL, less than two weeks before Chrysler is to meet U.S. demands for a crucial loan.

Fiat denied a statement by Chrysler that it would assume 35 percent of that company's debt to the U.S. government.

"Fiat Group intends to make it absolutely clear that the proposed alliance will not entail the assumption of any current or future indebtedness of Chrysler," Fiat said in a statement.

At about 1330 GMT (9:30 a.m. EDT), shares in Fiat, which is looking to form a partnership with Chrysler, were down 2.68 percent at 4.58 euros, while the DJ Stoxx auto index was down 1.06 percent. Fiat shares were earlier down more than 4 percent.

A video message on Chrysler's media website on Thursday said Fiat would take on 35 percent of Chrysler's debt to the U.S. government, but would not receive any money from that pool.

The percentage figure is the same as Fiat's planned equity stake in the No. 3 U.S. car maker.

The partnership comes as the car industry is struck by the worst crisis in decades. It helps Fiat gain the scale it needs to stay profitable and Chrysler to stay in business.

VIABLE CONCERN

Chrysler has received a $4 billion emergency loan from the U.S. government and has requested another $5 billion.

It has until March 31 to prove to the government that it can remain a viable concern and deserves the extra loan. Its partnership with Fiat depends on it getting that money.

In a non-binding agreement, Fiat is to take a 35 percent stake in Chrysler in exchange for technology to make small cars as well as access to foreign markets.

Fiat will not pay cash for the stake in Chrysler, which is 80.1 percent owned by Cerberus Capital Management, a private equity firm.

Analysts expect Fiat to end up investing something in the partnership in the coming years.

"Nothing is free in this world," said Arndt Ellinghorst at Credit Suisse.

Commerzbank's Gregor Claussen said: "It will have to invest because Chrysler plants are not made for Fiat cars."

Chrysler has said the partnership was worth up to $10 billion for Chrysler and could preserve 5,000 manufacturing jobs in North America.

It has also said the combined purchasing budget of the two companies would be $80 billion.

Reply to
Jim Higgins
Loading thread data ...

Did Fiat think they were getting 35% of Chrysler for free?

"in exchange for technology to make small cars"

What - does Fiat have the patent on how to make small cars?

Has Chrysler never made small cars?

"as well as access to foreign markets"

If Daimler couldn't help Chrysler access foreign markets, then what magic can a third-rung maker like Fiat do?

The irony is that Chrysler's best foreign car sales ->IS Analysts expect Fiat to end up investing something in the

If Fiat wants to sell their cars in north america, then why the f*ck don't they put their cars on cargo ships and dump them here like everyone else does? What's with all this pussy-footing around with Chrysler all about?

Does their cash-flow support $80 billion in purchasing? It better, because they're not going to get any bank line-of-credit for that amount these days.

Reply to
MoPar Man

Mopar Man,

It looks like you have identified Chrysler's problem! :)

2007 Chrysler LLC revenues were $49B. 2009 revenues must be down 30+% (I am being conservative). Fiat's revenues were $8.1B for 4Q08. Using the best possible assumptions for both companies, the combined revenues can't be more than $66B. To get the purchased content, you'd need to remove the non-operating revenues, profit, and the labor and load.content of their vehicles.

More seriously, perhaps the $80B purchased materials content figure that was quoted was a multi-year estimate?

Bob

Reply to
Bob Shuman

MotorsForum website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.