Re: Some Toyotas suck oil

Nov 25, 2003 28 Replies

So.... at what odometer reading did your engine fail

The car had 19K miles when it developed a problem. I never really got a full explanation, but it has to do with the way the engine breathes and the temperature it runs at. The engine apparently puts a very heavy demand on the oil and it breaks down prematurely. The dealer changed the valves covers, dropped the oil pan and cleaned it, flushed the engine, several times, and that seemed to correct the problem. It was a $2000 repair paid by Toyota. The reason I took the car in for repair as because it started burning oil and needing frequent oil replacement. Like I said synthetic oil is not supposed to break down that easily. This engine must have some really bad tolerances if it sledges just because you don't change the oil a 3000 mile intervals. The car ran fine after the fix, apparently there was no engine damage I caught it early. I of course changed my oil at 3000 miles then which I think is excessive for any car.

BTW, I traded it in for a 03GS300 and the car has not had the problem yet at

15K miles.

Oh, sure, yeah, right. Are you out for just the weekend?

Mike, I have seen these way back in 1994 with gelling. Its not unheard of to find an engine with gelling that has extended drain intervals (oil changes for those in Rio Linda) I've seen plenty of 3.4's also with gelling. It all coems down to oil changes. Those who have gelling has went beyond their requiremnt.

An interesting "belief." Got some case histories? Considering water, acids, and carbon are the main components of sludge, then WARM weather would not be condusive to sludge whereas cold weather would be more condusive. Short trips in cold weather would be the most condusive. Warm weather with longer trips (excess of 10 miles) would likely experience no sludge accumulations.

Mike.... you've made it abundantly clear that you don't keep cars beyond their warranty anyway. LOL (Save the collectable ones)(Pinto is "collectable?").

Interesting, JL Thank you for this information. During your ownership, were you aware of slow coolant consumption? Do you recall how much oil consumption was typical up to the 10k mile mark?

Mike you are wasting your time because the fanactical defenders of Toyota won't acknowledge that an owner has acted in good faith regarding the maintenance of the car; there is no sense to continue on. As highlighted here on a daily basis, owners of other cars (Ford Chrysler) have problems due to shoddy design and manufacture, but problems with Toyotas are attributed to a "divine collective idiocy" of the owners.

Oh Tom ... from your lips to Mike's ears. LOL

So far Tom, I have yet to see otherwise, coincendence? I don't think so. Now I'm not saying Toyota isn't fixing them, but its still due to neglect, I speak from first had experience. But I know you don't care, its not what you wanted to hear.

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The only thing I think Toyota has that's stupid is you due to your misstatements.

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a large problem is perpetrated by stupid people who don't rely on facts but, rather, fantasy and fiction. Much like smoke and mirrors, there only goal is to discredit Toyota using outright lies and mistruths. We've been through the numbers many, many times in this NG so I'll leave it at: "If you can't discredit Toyota with facts don't even try here as we are tired of hearing it." davidj92

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