I bought a C-Class in 2001 and it has been a total horror-story. I was
perhaps very unlucky in some respects. I ordered my car while I lived in
Germany, but got sent by work to France shortly after taking delivery. My
car was also of horrific quality. It has taken two years, twenty two visits
to various dealers, 65 days off the road, forty two faxes, uncounted
telephone calls, and a great deal of hassle to finally sort out the car. I
eventually had to drive it back to Germany to get one fault fixed because
Mercedes France would no longer attempt to repair it. If you search on my
name on Google I expect you will find further details.
Sure, anecdotes don't make data, and my experience may not be typical. But
combine that with the JD Powers reports, and other consumer surveys like
Which magazine, and MB is not looking good.
Also, bear in mind that when I was scoping my car, I was reading these
horror stories too, and I thought to myself that it "wouldn't happen to me",
or that "these problems were last years problems - MB would have sorted them
out by now", etc, and any other excuse I could find to let heart overall
cold logic. But foolishly I bought the car anyway. NEVER AGAIN!!!! I'll
probably never buy another new car (as buying new you can't take a test
drive before handing over the money), but if I do, I will ruthlessly study
the JDPower ratings before I make a decision. I certainly will also never
buy another Mercedes.
I think you are confusing what 20% means.... 20% JUST slows you down a little.
It will NOT bring you
to a stop. When you step on the brake and come to a stop, that is 100% use of
the brakes. Not 10% of
the capacity of the brake system....
Of course you are right with that, OTOH Mercedes has to beware of drivers
who first fall asleep or start reading the newspaper during the ride - and
then sue the hell out of DC. I regard Distronic to be helpful in that type
of dense traffic, where you usually always have to adjust or switch off
your Cruise Control. It is not suitable for Stop & Go. In Germany at least
half of all S-classes are equipped with distronic, and I have not heard
anything negative from it. IIRC it works only with speeds up to 100 mph,
but this is quite an old info.
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The Nov. '03 issue of a US consumer magazine tested such CC systems in
both a Lexus LS430 and a M-B S430 and didn't like either version. The
testers felt that both systems overreacted by "accelerating or braking
You can imagine, in our (law)suit happy, blame someone else for any
mistake society, how an engineer would design such a CC system - very,
Unfortunately, for us M -B owners, the S430's lousy repair record vs.
the Lexus' excellent quality caused the testers to recommend the Lexus
over the otherwise favored M-B.
M-B just doesn't get it that owners don't want to waste time with
repairs, Lexus understands it.
I have it in my SL, and it works very well in dense traffic (NOT stop and
go). When I enter the Autobahn in the morning, I switch it on and don't use
gas or brake until I come to my exit (40km drive). Distronic doesn't work so
well in light traffic, where you have the occasional, slower guy cutting in
before you or not freeing the lane at the right time - essentially, you
would stay at your given speed longer than Distronic does, discouraging the
guy in front to hold the lane. I like it very much and would buy it again,
if I would ever buy a Merc again. The quality of the cars is so bad, that I
am in the process of returning my second SL now.......
Sorry for not getting back sooner...
TE 430 4matic:
oillevel sensor, crankshaft rev sensor, 5x COMMAND, right mirror
electrical setting, mirror memory, 4-matic transfer case (@86.000 km, car
was only moving forward under terrible noise, made it very difficult to get
the thing on the trailer), driver seat creaking, rear seat unlocking lever,
Teleaid (took them 3 tries to fix that), TV broken from factory, rear
screen defrost (dealer), creaking drivers seat, all kinds of noises in both
doors, tweeter on passenger side came off (dealer), battery empty after one
week, major scratch in drivers door (dealer), COMMAND, left brake light (two
tries, no fix) -> car returned, got my first
Teleaid (two tries), forgot CD-changer (dealer), wrong color (no joke,
dealer), complete audio system was failing every other day, hissing noise
behind passenger seat, creaking roof -> as they couldn't fix the audio
system within four weeks, I returned the car and another
hissing noise behind passenger seat (according to dealer from the tank -
tank changed, no change), various noises from the roof (took the dealer
three weeks to fix that, installed the performance package afterwards),
noises from roof AGAIN,
and now the best: the paint is starting to come of in large strips! You can
only believe it, if you see it. MB declares this as an adhesion problem of
the paint, so this car goes back to them, too.
In my humble opinion MB has a MAJOR quality problem, both with the cars
themselves and the dealerships, which are quite incompetent. That is the
reason why I won't buy one agein. The cars are really pretty and especially
the SL is really fast, but the hassle is not worth it.
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