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Well both, accidents and failures in the system. Chances are pretty slim that either would occur. I don't know who is going to be doing the tranporting, but I would feel better if it were just the government, and not contracted out to some company that bid the lowest.

Ken not a nimby.

I retired from the industry. I used to have to engineer the hypothetical destruction of such things for specific purposes and would be pleased to answer fairly specific questions if I can. Be aware though that 'the road to hell is paved with what-ifs' and 'the conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense'.

Here in Norway Corolla is two sizes down from Camry, the Avensis is between them. And then you have the Yaris which is one size down from Corolla. It is very popular, unlike its predecessor Starlet.

Merely groundless fears?, Like the lemming like faith the people of new Orleans had in the Levies?

Isn't it difficult for him to get himself and his wheelchair in to a ridiculus tall vehicle?

You're not serious, right? Or are you "kidding on the square"...

Kovie snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.netizen

Not to worry, Hillary and the Dems are coming in '06 and '08 and they'll tax big oil to the point of bankruptcy, balancing the budget and forcing conservation on all of us!

Ok, the morning caffeine's wearing off, back to reality...

Kovie snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.netizen

There IS only one oil company these days. It's called the GOP (Government Oil Producers)! Are you actually suggesting that what's going on could be due to anything but deliberate collusion? Unfortunately, we can't "prove" it because Cheney refuses to release his energy task force's documents, under the excuse of "national security". Don't get me started...

Kovie snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.netizen

Was there a Cat 4+ hurricane that flattened the gulf states and breached New Orleans' levees until last Monday? Do people buy lottery tickets because they've already won $2 million dollar?

It's not about what HAS happened, but what COULD happen, statistically speaking, based on known science (although I'd guess that the odds of a catastrophic nuclear spill or accident while being transported are a LOT higher than the odds of hitting the jackpot).

I'm not arguing for or against nuclear energy, just that it's not this simple, and name-calling immediately excludes you or your opinion from serious consideration.

Oh, and btw, there have been MANY non-nuclear hazmat accidents and spills over the years, that could just as easily happen to nuclear cargo, no matter how many precautions are taken. NOTHING is 100% safe. It's just a matter of acceptable tradeoffs and thresholds.

Kovie snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.netizen

Well New Orleans was an event waiting to happen. That is what happens when you build a city by the sea in a giant hole.

Ken

Storage? That is what Yucca mountain is for. Just pile it up inside and forget about it.

Ken

Well the ' what if ' scenerios would not keep me from voting to transport and store the stuff at Yucca. What if a comet came and hit Yucca mountain while it had all the spent fuel there? What if some terrorist hijacked a truck or train with the waste? What if What if. It all hypothetical.

Ken

Actually, tapping the SPR will make up for the "gap" in imported oil that would have otherwise come in through the south Atlantic. There is somewhat less of a need (for the next few weeks) due to the damage to gulf-area refineries though.

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles

That's the point - a whole lotta tankers got delayed by the hurricane

- and that's why tapping the reserve is going to help. Yes, the demand for crude is lower than normal since the gulf-area refineries are down for a week or three - but without the SPR, we'd be looking at a gap in the imported oil above and beyond that.

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles

No problem mon we been doing that for years in Netherlands. But were willing to spend money on Dikes .

The Avensis is between them? My apologies. Toyota model lines all run together in my head. Yes, the Yaris is pretty popular, although mostly in hatchback versions, not sedan versions.

Jasper

Well, the thing is that both sides of the company cancel out. The refineries & gas stations suffer badly from high crude prices, which drive down demand and drive down margins as well (because people pay more attention to prices and shop around, thus upping competition pressures), and the production (which isn't actual *production*, of course, just mining for fluids) sides, for obvious reasons, prosper mightily.

The oil companies are generally set up to be pretty well balanced, because nobody buys stocks in companies that have their profit depend too much on oil prices.

Jasper

What faith?

Jasper

Nuclear bomb on top of trainful of nuke waste transport containers?

FAE bomb right on top of same?

Eschede-disaster style accident with same train (where the first bits of train derailed a few miles earlier, the third car under the underpass swung out to the side, knocking out the concrete pillars holding up the bridge, which promptly fell down on the second half of the fourth car (where most of the fatalities were) and caused the remaining twenty or so cars to harmonica into a crash site about as long as a single car)?

Terrorist action using lots of time (guards distracted or dealing with a hurricane in New Orleans) and a plasma cutter?

Terrorist action using say an Oklahoma City style truckbomb, situated right beside the track and detonated precisely as the apprpriate containers pass?

Terrorist action that takes out a bridge over a big ass ravine without enough warning so that the train falls in?

Jasper