Stormtroopers And Gestapo Turned Loose In New Orleans

Heres a quote from Guns & Violence, The English Experience

Historically, America has had a high homicide rate and England a low one. In a comparison of New York and London over a 200-year period, during most of which both populations had unrestricted access to firearms, historian Eric Monkkonen found New York's homicide rate consistently about five times London's. Monkkonen pointed out that even without guns, "the United States would still be out of step, just as it has been for two hundred years."

Legal historian Richard Maxwell Brown has argued that Americans have more homicides because English law insists an individual should retreat when attacked, whereas Americans believe they have the right to stand their ground and kill in self-defense. Americans do have more latitude to protect themselves, in keeping with traditional common law standards, but that would have had less significance before England's more restrictive policy was established in 1967.

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Grolsch
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It appears the English society is indeed becoming increasingly violent, however Murder and Rape by gun in the USA still far outstrips any other country in the world.

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Grolsch

And as the British population continues to become less homogeneous crime will increase. As the British import people who are not historically British, and have no sense of community, crime will increase. It's not British people who are committing the gun crime. It's West Indian and African gangs. Why? No sense of history, no sense of community. Homogeneous societies tend to have less violent crime. That, of course, is excepting the wild west. But living in a land of very little law enforcement, desperate conditions, AND lots of whiskey would tend to do that.

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Gooserider

At what tiny percentage of the US population. Guess what? The American murder rate with fists and feet is higher than the British rate, also. America is a violent place, but most of our violent crime occurs within distinct racial groups. There is a lot of black on black crime, hispanic on hispanic crime, black on hispanic crime, hispanic on black crime, hispanic on white crime, and black on white crime. There is white on white crime, primarily domestic. Not a lot of white on black or white on hispanic crime. That's just how it is. Care to guess where the British gun crime occurs? Outside of the occasional soccer riot, the genetic British are pretty law abiding people. Want to know where there is very little violent crime in the US? East Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese. There is some gang activity in the Asian community, and their gangs are really bad guys, but statistically very small.

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Gooserider

If we were to send the people who commit those crimes to Great Britain, their crime rate would skyrocket. It's a demographic thing.

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Gooserider

Actually there are a number of folks from NO relocating to Baton Rouge area. there was a piece on the news a couple days ago about a teacher from New Orleans who would be teaching in Baton rouge because the number of relocated children was so high they needed to hire more teachers.

julie

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Juliana L Holm

Really? Because all residents were advised to evacuate before the hurricane hit. Two days later they are lined up in the streets complaining that no one is helping them (now that the roads are too flooded to get to them) and the public is appalled at how they were left to their own devices. So, would everyone really say tough luck old lady when the news choppers went by next week and saw her lying on the porch in dire need of help? or would we be blaming the president for not personally rescuing her?

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AguaGirl

If it was the "old white lady" I saw, they only "dragged her from her home" because she had a pistol in her hand (only was on camera for a second or two). I don't think they've /generally/ started evicting by force (yet).

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Bill Sornson

Hilarious.

Cheto

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Cheto

Clinton would have done it (if she was good looking but a bit overweight).

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Mike Kruger

Not true. There was a good article on this in the WSJ Thursday or Friday. Iowa set up facilities for 1,000 and have gotten nobody. There were many other midwestern and eastern site listed where local authorities are prepared, but either nobody or a trickle has arrived.

It's probably some combination of bad logistics and the fact that people prefer not to evacuate too far.

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Mike Kruger

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One thing liberals are great at is calling people "stormtroopers" or "gestapo". If you ever had to deal with the real stormtroopers or gestapo you would not be so loose with the language.

Nazi Germany? Hurricanes? The gestapo going house to house with stormtroopers to save people? Am I missing something?

The fact is, I agree with your comment about the house to house search. If people are so stupid that they stay in New Orleans and die, good for them. But what about civil disorder. The looters? The criminals?

And what about disease. Do you think an outbreak of contagion is a good idea.

Your shocked about house to house searches. I'm shocked that the mayor of New Orleans hasn't been thrown in jail for failure to protect his citizens.

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Thomas Wentworth

"gestapo". If you ever had to deal with the real stormtroopers or gestapo you would not be so loose with the language.

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bigjim

for every "pioneer" who stayed and is willing to fend for themselves there are 100 who were flooded out and are yelling at their elected officials for not helping them fast enough. All 101 of them vote...who do you think is going to elect the government. It's not a matter of the govt butting in and taking over our lives, it's a matter of us handing them over on a silver platter. The thing about democracy is...majority rules. You might want to try a 3rd world country though, I hear they get left to their own devices on pretty much everything.

AG

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AguaGirl

We;d be lucky to get 70% votership in this country.... and poor l,ow income, and/or minority people tend to vote less. (54% of Lousina people voted in 2000).

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Mike Lloyd

Point taken, I should have said 101 of them are ABLE to vote. The premisis is the same. As much as we complain about interference we do tend to look to government to fix whatever ails us.

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AguaGirl

Were these troops forcibly removing their bicycles, confiscating their Subarus, canceling their travel cruises, or shooting their GI-Joes? How is this even slightly relevant to these news groups?

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John Everett

What has this stuff got to do with our Subaru NG? Take this stuff elsewhere "John Everett" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

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Edward Hayes

Look everyone, a government shill. Notice the lack of proper punctuation. Notice the love of tyranny.

Goodbye asshole. -Danny

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Danny Russell

Look everybody, a government shill. How dare the old woman have a firearm to protect herself and the sanctity of her home against marauding sissy-boys wearing jack-boots, right Bill?

Hey Bill, if you kicked-in an old woman's door would you be afraid of her? I think you would - YOU PUSSY. -Danny

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Danny Russell

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