I dont think the police or the "government (for want of a better word)"
have the resources to do anything with general devices of this type.
Yes, I have pressure sensors mounted inside each of my wheels, but
it would do no one any good to try to "hack" these low level devices.
Surely, much more could be encoded in such a signal, just as EZ Tags
transmit low level information but to what purpose? Big Brother is in
total chaos now!!
As far as a microphone in the GPS systems, mine has a microphone
via which I can speak to "Debbie in the Dash".. For anyone to eavesdrop
on me would require a real lack of a life, and adequate monitoring stations,
two way GPS capability, etc..
Worry about something real...like the billions in pork the dam Democrats
are trying to load into this year end legislation and shove down your
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:08:08 -0600, cuhulin wrote:
I said that, too, but my current job has me going from East Cupcake to
West Overshoe, and it's nice to have a gentle female voice telling me
where to go (and not the "usual" place, either!)
I had GPS in my phone, but it was $10 for the 'app' and $10 a month. So I
got a TomTom on eBay for $35 and now Jane tells me, "turn right, and take
the motorway" in her British accent.
I'm waiting for when I miss a turn and "Jane" says, "Didn't I tell you to
turn back there?!?! HONESTLY, you NEVER listen to me! Oh, why do I even
I wanted another mounting kit, and they're $29, so for another $38 I got
another complete GPS system, a bit better but basically the same thing,
and labeled them "JANE1" and "JANE, TOO"
A few years ago I read an article about a woman in Ireland, she was
driving and following directions from her GPS.That GPS lead her way out
into the middle of no where at the end of the road near a railroad
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:38:24 -0600, cuhulin wrote:
I have a TomTom. I love it. The guy who works with me on Thurs and Fri has
We had to go to the same place one week. My TomTom sent me up a "short
cut" which was a well-maintained dirt road I was able to traverse at
40MPH, no problem.
He had to go to the same area on Friday, and his Garmin sent him up...a
I have heard of someone being arrested for driving on RR tracks. When the
cops asked him what the hell he was doing, he told them "My GPS said to!"
Yeah, you have to have some Common Sense, too...
That is very important...You cant key in Broadmore Avenue if you are going
to Broadmoor Road. Helps to be sure you are operating inside your zone
map too ;>)
Ours has worked fabulously. But there IS a learning curve. We just got a
note from Toyota that ours has a software update that is available. My wife
threw away the notice but she said she thought it costs about $200.
Also be aware that a GPS unit is NOT a substitute for a map and NOT a
substitute for sitting down and reading the map before you go somewhere.
The people who get into trouble with GPS systems aren't really getting into
trouble with GPS, they are getting into trouble because they have no map and
no idea where they are. The GPS is just helping.
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
I have a big old brown paper sack here full of paper city maps of cities
I have been to before and some cities I have never been to before.
I prefer paper maps and paper road atlas, such as Rand McNally.I have
some foreign city maps too and two Stadplan foreign road atlases.Old
paper city maps won't keep you updated about new streets though.I
suppose GPS would, or updated GPS.
That's the downside to GPS units built into cars. They are much more
expensive to update firmware and map files than portable devices like
those from Garmin, etc.
Perhaps a bit more expensive to upgrade, but they have advantages as
After having a built-in (in both our current cars), I wouldnt want to
be limitted to a portable.
Curious--What are the advantages? It seems to me that the limitations apply
to the built-in units not the portable ones. Aside from being able to take
it with you---2nd cars. rental cars, pre-planning at home, being able to
modify while moving, easier upgrades and updates--- where does the portables
fall down in comparison to the built-ins?? Not mentioning the cost
either--$2000-3000 vs $100-250.
Agreed, *plus* with a portable e.g. Garmin you can do stuff like
import POI databases etc. - I have one for traffic cameras since MD
and DC are traffic camera hellholes and I occasionally have to go
there. Now it'd be nice to have something integrated into the
dashboard for a more finished look, but really, that doesn't outweigh
all the good arguments in favor of a portable.
At some point smart phones are going to get good enough that you won't
even need a separate GPS unit, just a windshield bracket and car
charger for your phone. they're almost there now.
We dont take our GPS systems with us and dont want to. So that is not a
We like the large and well lighted color display of the built-in. A
advantage for us "old folks"
We are able to make substantial adjustments to the built-ins as well while
on the move.
In fact, there are more adjustments than I routinely use or even care to
The main feature that the builtin has that I care absolutely nothing about
voice control. Maybe someday if I get really bored......
We dont really worry about theft, while we have had friends and relatives
who made the
mistake of leaving their portable in the car and came back to find it gone.
The portables I have seen are no faster nor more accurate than our
built-ins, and we
can essentially use ours in place of a road map. And we have been all
across the USA
using them successfully in this manner.
Last, when I bought an XM Roadie, I vowed I would not likely have another
electronic item mounted on or near my dash, and that has carried forward
can essentially use ours in place of a road map
And we have been all
Your case for the "built-in" actually tips the scale towards the portable.
"The large and well lighted color display of the built-in" ---- Quite a
premium for that relatively small advantage--$2000 vs $200.
"can essentially use ours in place of a road map"---Doesn't the portable
provide that same function?
"We don't really worry about theft"----Neither do I. I use the bean bag and
throw it in the trunk when I don't need the unit.
Theft happens because of carelessness.
"The portables I have seen are no faster nor more accurate than our
built-ins"---Then why pay Thousands more for the built-in?
Obviously, it's your choice. You don't have to justify that choice to
anyone--but to me it's a no brainer.
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