Ad absurdum per aspera wrote in news:678d6f08-5122- snipped-for-privacy@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
Depends where you live. In my area we generally get our first snowfall in late November or early December, so most people have their snows on by the middle of November. The rest end up stuck on a hill or in the ditch.
We can take them off early-mid April.
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snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net:
Just in case my point wasn't clear, I was going under the expectation that people from snow free states wouldn't know of there being a fourth type of tire made specifically for snow.
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Ad absurdum per aspera wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
In Quebec, you are now required by law to have snow tires on your car during the winter BTW.
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cuhulin
A heck of a lot of winter clothing thingys are sold in Miami clothing stores, because some people from Europe and other countries plan on heading up North after touring around in Miami.
Heh, a married Irish woman who lives in Bognor Regis,England, (she and meself have been friends since around the year of 2000) she and her hubby visited Disneyworld and Universal City near Orlando a few years ago in November.She was supprised it can get cold in Florida.She went to a store and bought a sweater. cuhulin
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Tegger wrote in news:Xns9CDEB7B1639DEtegger@208.90.168.18:
Yes. I was only referring to the nomenclature and at least around here when people talk about winter tires and radials, more often than not, they're actually talking about all season radials. Such is the average person .
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fred wrote in news:Xns9CDEBDAFF3004fred@127.0.0.1:
Then what, specifically, does "radial" mean?
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snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net:
I found that out the first time I stepped into the gulf during march break one year in Clearwater. "What's the point?" I thought. This is worse than Peggy's Cove's tidal pool. At least there it was a confortable air temperature.
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Tegger wrote in news:Xns9CDED0966FE76tegger@208.90.168.18:
It means you need to get more sleep and drink less coffee. Is there some reason you think I would lie about knowing the meaning of such a simple word?
You *did* ask what "radial" meant just now, *not* what a radial tire is anyways. *I* was the one that suggested winter tires originally anyways.
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fred wrote in news:Xns9CDEE98A75145fred@127.0.0.1:
I sense vigorous backing-and-filling going on here. You /don't/ know, and won't admit it.
You originally said, "Buy snow tires. 70% of winter accidents are due to cars not using snow tires. Radials are only good to about 7 above zero celcius (40ish F)."
You seem to have the impression that "radials" are summer or all-season tires, which implies that you do not know what the term means.
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AMuzi
Tegger wrote:
Spokes do not cross:
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Tegger wrote in news:Xns9CDF56C36CBE5tegger@208.90.168.18:
Now you're making serious assumptions. I chose not to answer a question that wasn't worded in context in any case. The meaning of the word radial alone has a very different meaning than radial tire.
Then you apparently didn't read my other post about the naming conventions around here. Besides the radial snow tires on that site look marketly different than the one I see here. The treads were far less pronuonced for one.
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Nate Nagel
is this what you're talking about?
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I haven't seen any of those in 15 years or more. I don't particularly miss 'em either. Loud and rumbly...
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fred wrote in news:Xns9CDFA6BAA788Efred@127.0.0.1:
"Radial" simply means that the fabric belts that make up the tire's carcass are not wound on an angle the way they are in the older bias-ply design. Instead they are wound straight from one bead to the other, as though they were "radiating" outwards from the tire's centerline.
The construction of the carcass has nothing to do with the tread design or the tire's intended weather use. Automotive road-going winter tires in Canada are identical to winter tires sold elsewhere in the world, and ALL are of radial construction.
Differentiating between radial and non-radial was important up to about the mid-'80s, when it was still possible to purchase either kind, and there were many vehicles still on the road with suspensions designed for bias-ply tires.
When you compare tires on a Website, make sure you're comparing snow to snow, and ice to ice. Both are winter tires, but they have slightly different intended uses and slightly different tread architectures.
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AMuzi wrote in news:hg0q1d$2ef$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal- september.org:
We're not talking about wheels.
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Nate Nagel wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news1.newsguy.com:
When I bought my '76 Dodge Coronet (used), the previous owner had installed bias-ply tires, probably to save money. They were awful. A replacement with radials brought an instant and obvious improvement in straight-ahead stability and in cornering quietness.
However, I neglected to replace the bias-ply that was on the spare wheel, so the next time I got a flat, I discovered very emphatically why they always told you not to mix radials and bias-plys on the same axle.
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Steve W.
Actually most heavy trucks and buses use radials. Have been since the late 80's. You have to look at tires from the 70's to find bias plies any longer.
severe off-roading, certain kinds
Actually you can also get the correct looking tires in radial construction, and that is actually the main reason you can get the correct ones. The people wanted the better radial tire construction but also wanted correct looking tires.
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Steve W.
There are FAR more than 4 types of tires out there.
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Kevin
fred wrote in news:Xns9CDDBAF15ADE8fred@127.0.0.1:
no buddy said I couldn`t get them, I was pointing out there are almost no bias ply tires any more. KB
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phaeton
about 15 years ago I picked up an old Schwinn cruiser from the mid-50s. It had the original (dry rotted) tires on them. I wonder if they were bias-ply.
Otherwise, I don't think i've seen nor even heard anyone say "snow tires" in about 15 years, and that includes the last 8 years that I've lived in Wisconsin.
*shrug*
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cuhulin
On the web, How Radial Tires are made
How about studded tires, are they still being sold? cuhulin
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