Passats are B platform:
to 81, B1 (Dasher in U.S.)
82 to 88, B2 (Quantum in U.S.)
89 to I don't know when, B3
I don't know when to present, B4
Golfs/Rabbits/Jettas are A platform:
to 84, A1
85 to 92, A2
93 to 99? (mid model year for Jettas, right?) A3
99 to present, A4
'90 to '94 are B3 although '89 too elsewhere (we just didn't get a
Quantum/Passat for '89).
'95-97 are B4
'98-early 2001 are B5
Mid 2001-now are B5.5
And Golfs and GTIs (all three models got the mid year change but the Jetta
was more obvious because it's the higher volume seller here, so early '99
for A3s and the A4 appeared a few months later to replace it.
As long as we're on the topic, I've got something to get off my chest.
1. All oil filters should have a socket in the end that will accept a
3/8" ratchet drive. What would it take to weld one of those on to the
filter can? Good grief.
2. Every car should accept an even number of quarts or liters of oil,
depending on the units used in the particular country. When you change the
oil, you should be able to put exactly four, five or six quarts in,
whatever, and that's that. I've got half-full bottles of oil all over the
place. Go ahead and try to give me one good reason why a car should take
4.4 quarts -- but I'm telling you right now, you ain't gonna convince me.
If the engines took a standard amount of oil, then oil companies could
package oil in that exact amount. One oil container, dump it in, and there
you go. This should be obvious to engine designers. Good grief.
3. When the "low windshield washer" light comes on, that reservoir should
take exactly one gallon to fill it. Why on earth do we have to have
partially-filled containers of washer around? Light comes on, pull into
station, put a gallon in, throw container away. Good grief.
Maybe you should try to order your oil from Canada, it comes in 1 Liter
and 4 Liter sizes up here :)
On the other hand, since all the major companies sell to both Canada and
the US, maybe you could convince your local distributer to order the
metric sizes from the oil companies.
Brian Running wrote:
That windsheild washer thing really bugs me... Our Volvo holds 4 litres + a
little extra, it's marked 4L on the resevoir.... so a US Gallon fits, a UK
Gallon fits, and a 4L jug fits.... What does my VW have - 3L... Meaning I
have little bits left in every bottle - I think the old A2 Golf's had 4L
tho. In the winter I've had up to 3-4 washer jugs strapped in with bungie
Phooyee. Oil Filters should be put on, and therefore come off again BY
HAND. Lube the new filter seal with some fresh oil and crank it about
one quarter to a half turn past contact. Why people put filters one like
axle nuts is beyond me. Same with using an air wrench to torque lug
Here you have a point; even if it was a metric amount. The 'additional
amount' could be incorporated into the oil pan pretty reasonable, if not
some where else. Still the reason you have half full oil containers
around isn't the fault of designers. This situation shouldn't exist past
two oil changes, it seems to me. (Old school tech meant the remainder
would go towards intermittent topping off. One could hope a modern
engine wouldn't _need_ topping off between oil changes).
It akes money to put something on that nearly no one should have to
use. Hand tight, hand loosen or a simple strap wrench.
You pint is not my pint. Your liter is not my quart. Your galon is not
my gallon. Your kg is not my lb is not my stone. The world does not
measure things the same. Oil capacity is designed with a few factors.
Enough oil to do the job and chassis space are the two primary
factors. Not designed for Jo Dufus who cannot use the pint of oil to
top off the engine at the half oil change top off, or top of the lawn
mower which always uses oil, or as mentioned use it for the next oil
change or the next change after that. Heck I buy the gallon. I use 1
gallon plus some. That not full one gallon jug gets used for the next
few oil changes. It does not feel lonely sitting on the oil shelf with
the other 2 or three gallons. Well it does now as I used my last full
gallon and there sits the partial container for another few months.
I can show you a shelf full of partial cans. It takes 41 US ounces of
laquer thinner to clean the spary gun. Why don't they sell 41 oz.
Great troll! Fun to respond to your stuff. Is it Mad TV or was it SNL
that had the old lady who went off on stuff and at the end of the skit
If all manufacturers would make their filters easily accessible, that'd be
fine. It's not about torque, it's about the ease of turning the thing on
and off. 3/4 turn past contact is the same whether you're turning it by
wrench or by hand, it's just a hell of a lot easier to put a 3/8" extension
up through all the hoses, etc., to get to the filter.
Whining? Of course I'm whining! What's surprising to me is that a lot of
people responding apparently took it as something personal. You get all
kinds on Usenet.
Yes, I do. And I also know that lots of people already overtighten oil
filters, using all kinds of goofy methods. There's no accounting for
I saw that, T. My comment was aimed at others -- believe it or not, some
people actually took the time to compose long, rude personal e-mails to me
about this. Up to that time, I had really respected this newsgroup as being
one of the sanest places on Usenet. "Sane place on Usenet" is one of those
oxymorons. Still a good group, though.
You did not know there are nuts here? Haven't you heard the thumping
of fists on chests as testosterone laden teens and early 20's people
proclaim that VW makes the most excellent, fastest, most reliable cars
in the world and VW loves them? Don't forget the run on sentances and
lack of paragraphs and punctuation suggesting to much Nintendo time.
As if I can talk about good syntax.
Hey my smiley looks like this ;-) That 8D means nothing to me. 8-)
that means nothing either. Older guy that don't understand hip new
And then there's my favorite (I think I invented it) 8])
As far as run on sentances and impropper punctuation and thinking VW was
the Cat's balls and things like that that mean nothing whatsover in the
grand schme of things we all know that VW loves us very much, esp VWoA,
abd there are never _any_ problems w/ VWs and GTI is all caps, and
Honduhs suck and damn I need to get something to eat.
Jeez man, can't you stay on-topic? More importantly, why the heck do they
sell the good quality hot dogs in packages of six, and hot dog buns in
packages of eight? I'm fed up with buying four packages of hot dogs and
three packages of buns every time I want a hot dog, just so I don't end up
with unused buns all over the house. Don't whine to me about your half-full
oil and windshield washer bottles. The nitrites are killing me, not to
mention the exorbitant bills for ketchup, mustard and pickle relish. It's a
conspiracy, man, and I'm betting it extends all the way to the damn Oval
1987 VW GTI 8V, original owner, 221,500+ miles
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