Re: Hey, Bush! What's That Great Sucking Sound? 30,000 Jobs, $3 Billion Ford Plant -- To Mexico?

Who does Ford think they are, Toyota, Honda? Where do they get the idea they can import three or four of the individual models they sell in the US,
from countries like Canada and Mexico?
OOPS sorry my mistake, I just realized Toyota or Honda import virtually all the individual models they sell in America. With the exception of one or two models ALL of the individual models offered by Toyota, Honda etal that they sell in the US, are imported.
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Mike hunt wrote:

They make the Tocoma, Corolla, Tundra, Sequoia, Sienna, Avalon and Camry in the US. They also import some of these models from Japan, Canada or Mexico into the US. Overall, the Level Field Institute (an organization made of retired workers from the former Big-3) said that about 42% of the content of all Toyota cars sold in the US (averaged over both imported and those made in the US) is from the US. For Honda, about 53% of the total content of all their vehicles (average over all imported vehicles and vehicles assembled inside the US) comes from the US. Likewise, the Honda Pilot, CR-V, Odyessy, Accord, and Ridgeline are all made in the US, although some may be imported as well.
You're welcome to hunt around the site and learn more. http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org /

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You are free to believe whatever you choose but I would suggest if you search the US Department of Commerce site you will discover what you believe is not factual, when it comes to numbers of vehicles made in the US compared to Mexico, Canada and other countries, of the total number of vehicle sold per manufacture in the US.
No import manufacture sells anywhere near 50% of the vehicles the sell in the US, in the US. Conversely over eighty percent of the vehicle sold by GM and Ford in the US are made in the US, although they too make some in Canada and Mexico as does Toyota and Honda
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More than half of Ford CARS sold in the US are assembled in Mexico and Canada (1/1/08 - 5/26/08: ~157k Mex/Can vs ~115 US). Most Ford TRUCKS are assembled in the US (1/1/08 - 5/26/08: ~112k Mex/Can vs ~762k US). So at least this year somewhere around 77% of Ford's US vehicles were built in the US (less than 80%, but close but clearly not more than 80%). As Ford shifts more production to cars, it may be that the percentage will decrease - especially if they sell significant numbers of Mexican built Fiestas in the near future.
Toyota assembled somewhere around 394k vehicles in the US so far in 2008 (1/1/2008 - 5/26/2008). Toyota sales in the first half of 2008 are just under a million vehicles. So I think the percentage of Toyota vehicles assembled in the US is around 39%. Not 50%, but rising.
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C. E. White wrote:

I know your numbers are correct. Where do you get them, however? Just curious.
Jeff
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Mike hunt wrote:

Toyota makes approximately 1.8 to 1.9 million cars in the US every year. Toyota sells about 2.5 million vehicles in the US every year, some of which are sold in Canada, Mexico and elsewhere. Some of the vehicles, like the Sienna are mostly made with US parts, while others have a higher percentage of parts from outside the US. Approximately 42% of the content of all Toyotas sold in the US comes from the US, according the Level Field Institute (vs. around 80% for Ford and GM).
> Conversely over eighty percent of the vehicle sold by GM

Don't forget they also make some overseas, like in Korea, England and Sweden, for sale in the US.
Mike, I have provided evidence from the Level Field Institute which an organization supported by retirees of the Michigan 3, which say that Honda vehicles are over 50%, on average, US content.
If you want to back your claim, go right ahead. Saying search the Department of Commerce site tells us you are too stupid, lazy or both to do YOUR homework.
But, until you are able to provide a real URL that backs your claim, please stop showing your ignorance.
As they say, it is better to remain silent and let us think you are stupid than open your mouth and prove it. You prove it all the time.
Jeff

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