This is off topic for this Hyundai group, but the relevant Ford Usenet
groups have little activity, so I thought I'd try posting it here in case
there are some generic answers that tend to apply to all vehicles:
This is for a friend of mine. He has a 1997 F150 4WD XLT pickup truck with
a 4.6L engine.
The problem he is having is that both electric windows stopped working at
the same time.
Here is some additional information in case it helps. Before this happened,
he was having a problem with the overhead light in the cab. To get the
light to come on, he would need to push up on the ceiling near the light, so
obviously there was some type of loose connection there. Now, I'm pretty
sure he said that neither the electric windows nor the overhead light work
He did try checking and replacing/bypassing all of the fuses but that didn't
Shortly before the electric windows stopped working, he had to replace the
entire rear differential and axle. After that, everything was working. But
about a day later he heard a noise in the universal joint and he had to drop
the entire drive shaft and replace the rear universal joint. Immediately
after putting the drive shaft and universal back together, the electric
windows stopped working. I don't see how those two things could be related,
but that is the sequence of events.
He has the door panels off, and he was able to get some print-outs of the
wiring diagram and what looks like the locations for various relays,
switches, and a "GED"(?) or "GEM"(?) controller.
Now, after all of that explanation and background, here are the questions:
Ordinarily, how hard would something like this be for an experienced repair
shop to diagnose and locate where the problem may be located and determine
what need to be replaced or done to fix this? I know that electrical
problems can be difficult to locate, but is there a fairly simple process
that a shop can go through to locate the exact source of the problem the
works in MOST cases? He doesn't have much money, so he can't afford to pay
for hours and hours of time trying to locate the problem.
Or, are there some things that he could do or check or try on his own to try
to isolate where the problem is? For example, if he can find where some of
the relays are located, can he try doing some type of jumper across each one
to check to see if that solves the problem?
He could also go to a junk yard and remove and buy various relays, switches,
and the GED/GEM? etc., if that might be worth trying.
Thanks for any ideas or suggestions.