Dodge Challenger: A Go For 2008.5!

"NO German Engineering, NO Swiss Innovation, ALL American Kick-Ass"

Current powerplants in the LX chassis are the 340-hp 5.7L HEMI and the SRT 425-hp 6.1L HEMI. I don't know if Dodge has any plans to chase the Mustang or not, but these motors are from 2005, so they might see a bump in power by the 2009 model year. We'll see. There's no denying that we all benefit from horsepower wars!

Did the original GT500KR get more power than the GT500?

Thanks, Scott

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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote in news:1147833228.361592.116380 @u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com:

Challenger.

Challenger

Why the comparison between a standard production vehicle and a limited- production specialty vehicle costing tens of thousands more? It couldn't be that Ford has nothing available to compete except the mythical GT500, could it?

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

The media will compare anything that brings in readers. If the Challenger was produced right now, it would get a 340-hp 5.7 (R/T) and a

6.1 425-hp (SRT8). Assuming it's still destined for production, I imagine the engine options are still unknown. As far as I know, they are coming out with a new platform (LY), so perhaps they will revamp the output of their HEMI motors, too.

Thanks, Scott

Joe wrote: >

More than the currently officially rated 500 horsepower?

a.. Ford Shelby GT500 officially rated at 500 horsepower, 25 horsepower higher than preliminary estimates a.. The Shelby GT500 will go on sale this summer with more horsepower than any previous factory-built Mustang

The real question is who is producing what and who is just talking about it...

You don't think Ford can drop a comparable engine into the Mustang GT three years from now, to compete with the Germans as yet imaginary, and underpowered Challenger?

I guess I should have mentioned that I was talking about the original GT500, too. I believe the GT500KR replaced the GT500, in 1968?, but I was curious if they bumped up the power along with it? I guess that has little to do with a new Challenger thread, so I will just research it online or start another thread if I really want to know. ;)

Thanks, Scott

My Names Nobody wrote: >

Right. The Challenger is basically old news at this point; I was just wondering why Patrick posted the ridiculous comparo.

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Scott Moseman wrote in news:QvJag.41831$CH2.24409 @tornado.texas.rr.com:

"My Names Nobody" wrote in news:diKag.6413$Sh3.3174@trnddc05:

Well, let's see. Ford is yapping about all kinds of non-existent products in dreamland while they're selling a 300hp 4.6. DC isn't talking much but selling a 425hp 6.1. I think that answers the "real" question.

Considering that Ford has absolutely nothing to compete with either of the Hemis, that's a pretty funny question.

As for the future, who really knows? However, if history is any indication of things to come, Ford will be a day late and a dollar short.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

In the CONTEXT of this discussion and considering that Chrysler is only marketing retro NAMES, not looks*, and the fact that the Challenger is 2 years away, I find that AMUSING.

*Unless you find the PT Cruiser attractive.. or maybe the roadster whatsitsname..

Because up until this point in time the Challenger was only a show car. Now it seems the decision has finally been made to put it into production.

Patrick

You forgot to add, that out runs any of the standard Hemi cars.

And which sells for about $15K more than the Mustang GT.

Well, now it does.

Please note: Ford's 6.2 liter "Hurricane" V8 is slated for production.

Yep, and that's why Mustang has remained in production all these years and the Challenger and Camaro are returning after a number of years of being on hiatus.

I say let's wait until '08 to see who has the best performance product for the $$$s.

Patrick

By 08/09 gas maybe $5.00 a gallon and both GM & Ford bankrupt.

Not quite yet approved, according to this article...

The muscle-car Web site claimed that the Challenger was on track as a

2008.5 model. "They don't know what they are talking about," Chrysler spokesman Jason Vines told IL. "There has been no official approval, and I should know ? I'm on the product strategy team that gives the green light. We are doing the business case on that [the Challenger] and the Imperial.

"What we have d>Employees from DamilerChrysler supplier, Collins & Aikman told

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Everything I've read on the Challenger indicated that it was always destined for standard production, whereas the GT500 was always hyped as limited production. The Challenger's drivetrain is right out of the current parts bin. To compare the Challenger to a GT500 is simply apples and oranges.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

Backyard Mechanic wrote in news:Xns97C79BCAA863Cpettyfogery@207.115.17.102:

Don't know what rock you're living under, but DC is SELLING Hemi cars like hotcakes right now.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

Jaysys!!!!! I know it... my son drives one. But the package, to my somewhat dated tasts.. DOES count and DC's SUX!

I'm talking STYLING!!!! And, a certain percentage of muscle freaks, aside.... Son likes the styling, I murmur pleasantries so as not to offend.

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote in news:1148006613.020643.309740 @g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

The Charger SRT8 will easily go up against any Mustang GT.

Because it's $15k more car than the Mustang GT.

DC's Hemi cars are all bigger, heavier, and more powerful than the Mustang GT. In truth, the Mustang GT and Hemi cars are in different categories.

My point here is that Ford's standard production engine offerings are lame. Ford needs a 400-hp naturally aspirated production motor, while DC needs a smaller, lighter car for its Hemi. That's the _real_ story.

Please note: Ford has traditionally teased the buying public with such tall tales.

No real point there. But as long as you're talking about heritage and whatnot, let's mention the anemic Mustang II and the almost-produced FWD Mustang that turned into the Probe but for public outcry.

We can wait, but what's the point? Right now, the Mustang GT stands alone as there's no real competition, and it's a great car to boot. I simply think that Ford has become the Boy Who Cried Wolf at this point.

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC

Backyard Mechanic wrote in news:Xns97C8527F49E1Dpettyfogery@207.115.17.102:

Some packages are definitely better than others. ;)

As for pure styling, the Mustang wins hands down IMO except for its fat ass. Of the Hemi cars, the Charger's the best, but I don't consider it a direct competitor to the Mustang. If/when DC comes out with the Challenger (or something around the size of the Mustang), then we'll talk. Of course, who knows what the Mustang will look like by then...

Joe Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC