What you need is a Yugo. They are great trolling cars.
(Quantum Synchro, 200T, S4, A6, and RS6 with nary an aching anything, and I'm
six one, 220 pounds and 67 years old. Now, those Yugos, well...... they'll
give ya a pain in the ass, which seems to be your problem.....d;o).......)
Odd thing, I'm only 6' and my right leg used to ache terribly after driving
my A4 for more than an hour or so. Took me a while to notice the culprit -
for a while I thought was just getting old!! Then I spent about 9 hours in
my A4 over a couple of days and could hardly stand the next day!!!
IMO, I think the main problem was there being very little 'spring' (or
feedback) in the gas pedal, causing ny foot to be lightly balanced, causing
tension especially down the lower leg.
I now drive a Ford Galaxy, which apart from a completely different driving
position also has an accelerator that has more positive feedback and you can
'rest' your foot on - but need to press hard to go faster. I haven't
noticed *any* pain since.
FWIW my brother-in-law, who is 6'5" does about 2,500 miles a month in his 03
Passat (basically an earlier A4) and I've never heard him say anything other
than how comfortable it is.
I had a similar issue with my A6 except it was my lower back. I'd been
driving A6's and 100's for 7 years putting on approximately 55-60K per
year due to my commute. I had a 91 100, 92 100s, and a 98 A6 Avant. The
thing is, they all had the same exact seats! I'm not a tall guy, only
5'9" but I was experiencing pretty severe back pain every day. My remedy
was to buy an A8! It's like sitting in a recliner and since I bought it,
I haven't had any back pain at all!
It sounds like a nerve is getting pinched. I also have had this problem so
many years. Seat position is key, and different seats need different
In my A6, I had to move the seat nearer the steering wheel (to reduce leg
stretch), tilt the seat itself back a bit, and put the backrest in a more
upright position. If possible, try to get all your joints (hip, knee,
ankle) as close to 90 degrees as possible. Also, set the steering wheel to
keep your elbows bent quite a bit. The "sports car straight arm" posture
will strain your neck, and this may be the source of the pinched nerve.
Use cruise control whenever possible -- this lets you relax your right leg.
The best way to find seat position is to adjust the seat so that when your
shoulders are against the seat back and your arms extended, your wrist should
be resting on the top of the steering wheel. This technique is taught in many
performance driving schools. With most cars that have adjustable seats, I am
skeptical when I hear someone say they aren't comfortable. There are so many
different combinations of the eight ways to adjust, that there *has* to be a
comfortable one for just about anyone, regardless their size.
(comfort as good as it gets in an RS6)
There's no sports car straight arm position anymore.
I got the sport seats in my A6 and unfortunately one cushion was
pressing on one nerve in my right hip.
I got it modified by a specialist car upholstery guy (the kind that
does luxury refurbishments on oldtimers). It took him only a bit and
cost me ~30 USD.
Since then the seat is bascially custom made for me, fits perfect and
lets me make 9 hour runs without any problems. And the best thing is:
You wouldn't notice that something was done, so well it was done.
On 29 Jan 2005 17:53:25 GMT, email@example.comPirate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:
This is exactly the problem! This used to be favored for "performance
driving" but not as much these days. However, the point is that we are
seeking a strain-free seat position, particularly for someone with lower
back/sciatic problems. The straight-arm posture is exceedingly hard on the
cervical and lumbar regions.
Uhhhh, where did I say "straight arm" in my advice? It isn't there. And, if
you adjust your seat so that you *are* comfortable *and* your wrists hang over
the top of the steering wheel, your arms will have a very comfortable position.
They will NOT be straight armed, but have a fairly good bend in them. *And*
they will be comfortable. Try it.
You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of shit and no steering
will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
(Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
I guess your almost there but you should have started with:
Sit in the chair and press the clutch (or brake i.c.o. automatic car).
Adjust the chair position in such way that if the clutch is fully pressed,
the knee is stil bend a little and not fully streched. Next contiue with
adjustment of the steeringwheel and or back of the chair with the
measurement you have described.
On 31 Jan 2005 02:29:35 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.orgPirate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:
I'm not an idiot. Obviously, the "wrists on top of the wheel" was to set
distance -- no one drives that way.
You seem to have missed a very important point -- street driving and
performance driving positions have different objectives. Both strive to
maintain good car control, but the performance driving one doesn't care two
hoots for long-term comfort, nor cater to drivers with neck/leg/back
Of course the position you espouse works -- all I have said was that is not
necessarily optimal for all people.
Cut down a bit on the arrogance and sarcasm -- it might help.
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