My son has a new M Series BMW
and is in Germany. The dealer charged
him 240 Euro for the oil during the oil change. I need to know if
there is any other source for the oil at a cheaper price. In Fl. a
dealer charged us $130 for 12 Qt case which he took back to Germany
after Thanksgiving holidays.
Castrol website doesn't even mention it except on their UK pages.
There they refer to it as CASTROL EDGE 10W-60 Oil.
I read also BMW may be using Mobil Synthetic as a replacement in the
future but no word from BMW yet.
Anyone useing this or similar oil? Any ideas where to get it?
I don't know about Germany, but in the USA the scheduled oil changes are
free for 4 years with the E60 M5. In fact, they are free for all new BMW
The E60 M5 uses some oil though ... as much as a liter per 1000 miles during
the break in period.
Again, here in the USA, the dealers give you a couple of liter bottles at a
time (free) if you ask for it. Is the BMW policy different in Germany?
I've looked for it (Castrol 10w-60) but nobody carries it other than the
Hahaha. Yes only in the states do you get things like that and
extended warranties on bad engines etc. I Europe I believe the norm is
1 year warranty with no service plan and if anythuign goes wrong during
the warranty BMW will likely contest that it's "a feature" not a
Castrol edge or edge sport can be got in 10w60 but I don't know what
the differences are. Some places sell them (in the UK at least) in 25
I think I remember that here in the USA, engines .... car, trucks, boats,
etc. ... must be capable of using any oil that meets the recommended
service requirements. If the manufacturer specifies a non-standard or
specific type of oil, they must provide it for free, by law.
Love to see a cite for that as I don't believe it is correct. I believe the
original was that if they require you to get the product only from them
(i.e. a matching product isn't available elsewhere). Doesn't mean they
can't require 10-60 but 10-30 MUST work.
Also think it is an urban legend.
I should be more clear. If a manufacturer requires a specific, OEM brand
oil only, then they must supply it. Otherwise, the vehicle must be able to
use any brand that meets the technical specifications of the OEM brand.
The owner's manual of the E60 M5 (V10) specifically states that the 10-60
Castrol oil is required, although 10-40 may be temporarily substituted if
oil is required and the 10-60 is not available. BMW supplies Castrol 10-60
synthetic free (name branded as BMW oil) because it is currently not
available anywhere else.
Exactly where is the dealer providing the TWS oil for free? I want to
And Turner Motorsports and a number of other secondary market sources
(not BMW) will happily sell you Castrol TWS, so BMW is not the only
I think you were trying to be too clear.
To the other poster - everyone except (apparently) RCE in the US who has
an M5 or M3 requiring the Castrol TWX 10W-60 oil is paying for it.
Look ... not looking for an argument, but facts are facts. Anytime I needed
oil for either of the two E-60 M5's that I had, I simply drove to the
dealer, told them I needed some oil and they handed me a couple of liter
bottles. Other M5 owners across the country have reported the same.
Sorry if you have to pay for it.
Sorry to have started a p*ssing contest here....although it seems too
easy to do. It seems some of you are stating the oil is supplied as
part of the "normal" maintainence. So BMW NA is saying "if the car
uses oil we will supply it"
That is great, but do you have to BUY the oil used to replace the
drained oil when "normal maintainence oil changes" are performed?
As I noted in the initial question, my son was "charged" 240 Euro for
the oil needed to "perform the 10,000 mile service" on his 2006 M3.
The dealer in Germany did ask if he had "brought his own" oil as their
prices were very high. Since he had no prior warning he had not
brought oil with him. So while home for the Thanksgiving holiday he
purchased 12 Qts from a dealer in West Palm beach FL. That dealer
never mention the oil could be free under certain circumstances.
What is the German warrentee differences? Is the BMW NA service
warrentee better than in Europe?
This has been a eye-opener about the service differences, Thanks.
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