Tire Pressure Monitor

Simply not true, you need to do better home work.

Change where there is a defined benefit is a good thing. However the TPMS is a perfect example of an expensive gee-whiz technology with at best a minimal benefit.

Not sure what you are saying here.....a confusing statement at best.

I think you are saying that your driving skills are pretty good in this paragraph...??? Right???

Not sure what your point is with this statement.

I have no doubt that a tire pressure monitoring system can be accurate as accurate as a good hand held gauge. But if it goes out of calibration then it is not a reliable tool especially for less than sophisticated drivers. A TPMS does not offer much improvement in tire safety over a hand held guage for virtually all drivers in all driving situations. As I remember the TPMS became an issue after a very few drivers of inherently unstable vehicles (SUVs) had blowouts and they reacted the wrong way. A TPMS won't solve that problem.

I've got to ask about knowlege bases. That's a pretty fancy buzzword that just rolls off the tongue of many consultants in these parts. So tell me what a knowlege base looks like and how one can be inside or outside of one.

The fact is that you closed your message with that phrase. Apparently you give little thought to the meaning of words, since in your words: Never Use Them For What They Were Intended. Words are just so much attention getting filler.

I'm not sure this was an issue...

Don't know, are you looking for a scholarship?

A couple of items that seem to be in confusion here.

1. The caddys need to know which sensor is reporting from what corner, hence the reprogramming requirement on a rim relocation.
2. The vette\caddy system is accurate to pounds pressure while the abs derived system is > Dad wrote:

I don't know much about the Public Citizen group, but the concerns they raise are enough to make me wonder how useful tire pressure information will be if the thresholds are as low as they describe. I'm also concerned about a statement by that group that the systems do not have to work with replacement tires. And apparently the final rule says the systems need not measure tire pressure until a motorist has been driving between 30 and 60 miles per hour continuously for 20 minutes. If true, TPMS with that threshold of operation would be useless in most urban/suburban highway settings.

It sounds like there will be little consistency in tire pressure information between car manufacturers because of the exceptions permitted under the rule.

See this link - what do you think:

Since I started this debate, here's my 2 cents. The dealer in question has done all waranty work, maintance, and repairs on both my CTS and Escalade. This amounts to thousands of dollars in revenue over the past few years. I don't have the attitude that everything should be free; the dealer's in business (like me) to make money and I have no problem paying for labor and parts. However, as previous posts prove, this is a simple 2 minute job that doesn't require any parts. Considering how much business they had from me, 2 minutes of a tech's time, without charge, seems to be a reasonable request.

Since you're cross posting again I thought I'd let you know why I need to know if kindergarten had started. If you are taking it over, as you should, and are able to pass this time I'll be there for you, three years is a long time to make it through any grade. Good luck, you'll need it.

If the op got the tires rotated somewhere,

Because they might want to sell me another car? Oh I forgot, they don't make any money selling the things -- just servicing them. I'm convinced GM deliberately designs systems so complicated they can force you to come back to dealers to have them serviced. Owners can't even perform routine maintenance anymore because it requires special tools or filters/parts available only at the dealer. Really disgusting and one reason I've stopped having anything done except an occasional oil change because I don't keep the things past warranty anyhow.

That is certainly an interesting response to my comment that described the problems with TPMs noted by one consumer group. Apparently you didn't understand their points. Understandable since some of the sentences were rather long and used words with more than one syllable. You had nothing to contribute and chose instead to start talking about kindergarten.

Why do you append inane phrases to your messages.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:48:42 GMT, Windcat puked:

Are you serious? That's not true in the least.

-- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

God did the same thing when he made man, every time my model breaks I have to take it to a doctor to have it repaired. All I can do is feed it and use it, never been able to do any surgery on it myself. Can't even buy a manual for this particular model, what was He thinking, that He was GM?

Right! That's certainly what we do at our dealership...hang around waiting for do things for free so "you might" buy another car. People like you won't be happy anywhere anyways....so you might just as well bugger off.

How very ethical of you! Just pass your un-maintained vehicle onto the next poor shmuck eh?

Ian

Hey guys. People in here have been voicing their opinions and disagreeing for a long, long time without having to call each other names. It's been pretty nice that way.

Of course it is Luke.. I was the Assistant Service Manager for Mitchell Motors Cadlliac for a few years, and if I heard that from one of my Service Writers, he would of gotten reprimanded. In my experience Cadlliac owners in general are very loyal to their Dealerships for the desirable Customer Pay jobs if the warranty work period was satisfactory...

Now I d> Considering how much business they had from me, 2