1991 Shadow fuel pump problem

1991 Shadow has a fuel pump problem. At first it was thought the fuel pump was not working, but after taking it out and testing it directly it worked. Any thoughts as to what is likely to be broken (the tank is not getting electricity)?
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Jonathan Grobe
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The fuel pump receives power from the fuel pump relay, which in turn is energized only on the Auto Shutdown (ASD) relay's say-so, which occurs only when the Single Board Engine Controller (SBEC) gives the go-ahead, which happens only if: -The ignition is switched "on" -The SBEC is receiving power -The SBEC sees a pulse signal from the hall effect pickup in the distributor.

Your first diagnostic step is to disconnect the negative battery cable for two minutes, reconnect it, crank the engine, then check for stored flash codes.

To check the computer codes:

With the engine off, switch the ignition key on-off-on-off-on, leaving it "ON". Do not go to "start", just "on" during this procedure.

Watch the "Check Engine" light. It will turn on, then go off, then will begin to flash-out any trouble codes that have been stored. For instance, if it flashes:

flash flash flash

flash flash flash flash flash flash flash flash

flash flash flash flash flash flash flash flash flash flash

Then you have a 12 (one flash followed by two) a 35 (three and five) and a

55 (five and five). 55 means "end of codes" or, if by itself, "No codes stored. Check the codes and report what you find.

"12" means "start of codes" when observed via the dash light. "55" means "end of codes".

If you get a code "11" (12-11-55), the hall effect pickup in your distributor has gone and you'll need a replacement.

If you get no codes at all, your SBEC isn't getting power and you've probably got a corroded wire or a blown fuselink upstream of the SBEC.

If you get other codes, other problems may be indicated (faulty ASD relay, faulty fuel pump relay).

DS

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Daniel J. Stern

Jonathan Grobe wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@worf.netins.net:

Auto Fuel Shut-Off switch, located on my 94, behind an interior panel on the drivers side near the rear wheel. Check your manual for location. This must be manually re-set if tripped.

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Anthony

be careful bench testing the pump. its a good way to have a fire, You needed to check for 12 volts and a good ground at the fuel pump when it was in the tank,did you do that before removing it? You only have 3 seconds before ASD shuts down the the pump when testing so you may want to get a second person to turn the key on while you are testing. It could still be the pump and by taking it out may have gotten it to work for the bench test .some times if you hit the bottom of the tank where the pump is.....it will get the pump running again Any codes in the memory of the engine controller

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damnnickname

hmmm what kind of car is this? Because it isnt a Chrysler Product

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damnnickname

Reply to
maxpower

Yes, the ASD is just a relay locted on the inner drivers fender. It should be located with three other relays next to the PCM.

Wink

93 Lebaron 89 Shadow 89 Sundance
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MWinkle353

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