Value of an El Camino rustbucket?

Hello all,

I'm a first-time visitor, not a classic truck owner - but am trying to research a problem I hope someone here can help with.

I"m trying to solve a neighborhood eyesore - a rusty El Camino that probably belongs in a scrapyard. It has spent a few years parked outside in New England. It evidently is just operational enough to move across the street once a year when the snow parking side-of- street rules change (a neighbor who witnessed that event this year said the engine noise was deafening).

So here's my question - since I'm trying to resolve this nasty issue peaceably: if you ran across such a heap, what would be a reasonable offer for it? I realize I don't have a lot of details, but hope I've provided enough info for a SWAG estimate.

Zip

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Zip
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Since you are trying ot opress your neighbor, I'd guess it is worth whatever you have to pay for it... Don't you have anything better to do with your life than causing problems for the rest of the world?

Go over and offer to buy it, say "How much?" He'll tell you. Pay it, then junk it.

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PeterD

Thank you for your thoughtful, detailed analysis of my motives and the situation. I wish things were as simple as your sensible suggestion, but they're not: I'm dealing with an intermediary who's making a sincere effort to soak me. I need to be armed with a little information. Blue books aren't very helpful here - I'm hoping someone with enough knowledge about harvesting neglected, rusting, classic vehicles could help me gain that information. It seems like a reasonable request - sorry if you think otherwise.

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Zip

Why people think they have a right to tell others what they can and can't do with their property is beyond me. If he wants a rust bucket, that's his right.

Worth...

I'd say it is worth between 40 and 40,000 dollars. Take the average of

20,020 and offer him that.

Or go buy one that is more visually appealing to you, and offer to trade him even.

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PeterD

================================ Your math is just about at par with your understanding of what Zip is trying to do.

Joe

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Heather & Joe Way

And if I want to sell my house, that's my right. It's unfortunate that his rustbucket is scaring off buyers. Yes - that's what's going on here. Now we're even - I also have rights that are at stake.

My neighbor is violating the law by parking a non-functional car on a public street. His law-breaking is causing me economic harm. But I'm not trying to threaten anyone with the law - I'm trying to settle this problem much more to his advantage. My interest in doing that stops well short of being ripped off - I'm trying to be fair, not stupid. Why you've concluded that I'm trying to perpetrate some terrible violation of his human rights is beyond me.

Once again, thank you for you thoughtful analysis - your understanding of market economics is clearly as deep as your understanding of human motives.

Zip

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Zip

Zip , I congratulate you for trying the do the right thing. I know nothing about possible worth of this vehicle , but I had to comment on PeterD.

PeterD is evidently a product of our PC society, which believes that we cannot do anything to correct a problem because we might hurt someones' feelings. Balderdash. We need more people with courgage, people that speak their minds, people that are willing to solve problems. We don't need more wussies that are too afraid try and correct problems.

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anutforyou

=============================== Note to self:

Even with your new monitor, you still need your glasses to read.

The math is OK, but the logic is still way off.

Joe

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Heather & Joe Way

Thanks. I don't mind PeterD's "PC" opinions about respecting other's rights, but he jumped to some very foolish conclusions based on lack of information. My challenges as a homeseller aren't really relevant to my question - I didn't plan to bring them into the discussion, but it became necessary in the face of such silliness. Peter's been quiet since then, so maybe he considers my property rights as sacred as my scofflaw neighbor's - there's some hope for him.

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Zip

What the OP is doing is either trolling or being really dumb... How can someone come up with a value for so vague an item?

As to the OP's 'justification', that is just icing on the cake--a good laugh, but not much more.

Here it is:

An item's value is solely what a buyer will pay for it if the seller wants to sell it. Nothing more, nothing less.

So, the OP should contact the owner, and say "how much". Then the OP can decide: "Do I really want this?" If the answer is yes, then he should buy it. If not he should simply get on with his life and worry less about what his neighbors do, own or drive.

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PeterD

Hogwash. I could care less about feelings. I don't even care about my feelings. What I am saying is that if someone wants to own an old junker that is their right.

If as the OP says "it is in violation of local laws" then he should report it.

His options are simple: either buy it for whatever price he and the seller can agree on (and your feeling of value, my feeling of value, and everyone else's feeling of value is worthless in this case!) or report it as a legal problem, or live with it.

I doubt very much that a car on the street is affecting the value of the OP's house or property--I suspect that there is much more to this story...

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PeterD

I'm hopeless, so there!

Make a fair offer on the car. If he'll sell, buy it. If not, contact the town and report it as a 'junk' vehicle. If the town agrees with you, and there are rules on junk vehicles in your town, it will go.

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PeterD

Beats me. BlueBook and Edmunds manage to do it - are their users "really dumb"? I was just asking this group to fill in a hole those sources don't cover. I'm pleased and honored you took it as an invitation to bestow your advice on how to deal with people and local ordinances - but it really wasn't what I was looking for. However, I'll keep you in mind when I am in search of such wisdom.

If I brought some humor to your life, my existence has been worthwhile.

Zip

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Zip

Basically, NADA and Edmunds need the year, model, condition, miles, major options, etc. to determine a value. Not just the phrase "rust bucket"... If you can tell me the above I can tell you what I

*Think* it is worth, too. Generally a rust bucket of indeterminate age and condition is worth about $25 to $75 as scrap, and maybe twice that to someone looking for parts (assuming there are some still left.)

What year and model? How many miles? General condition? Options? Air?

Say it is a collector's vehicle... (might be, right?) then grab a copy of Hemmings Motor News, look up similar vheicles in similar condition. (You probably won't find any, but Hemmings is fun anyway.)

Again, (last time, I promise!) what is it worth to you to get the thing out of there? Take that amount, write up a bill of sale, walk up to the guys door: "Here's cash, in hand..." Maybe he'll surprise you. Most junk yards will tow it away for free.

Very! Thanks for all...

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PeterD

Thank you. This is a big improvement over the oppress-thy-neighbor crap we started out with.

Believe it or not, I am educable. Maybe you are too - once off your high horse, you started showing a little decency and respect... not unlike the way you're suggesting I treat my neighbor.

Zip

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Zip

Whatever. People like you are the reason I moved outa Memphis and bought a place in the country.

-- Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl" '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM

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Old Crow

On 21 Apr 2007 19:56:55 -0700, Zip puked:

If I were house hunting and saw a neighbor had an old El Camino, I'd really want to live there and I'd think the folks there were cool. Of course, I have an old El Camino, and I think people like me are cool.

Maybe you should ask someone the question in alt.real-estate or rec.condo.commandos-gone-wild. The only response you should get calling an old car an eyesore in a classic vehicle forum is a smack in the head for trolling...

-- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

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lab~rat >:-)

Remember, cash talks... Loudly!

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PeterD

On 23 Apr 2007 07:50:56 -0700, Zip puked:

Then maybe YOU should have filled in a few holes, like maybe a model year or something...

-- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

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lab~rat >:-)

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:20:48 -0500, Old Crow puked:

10-4 to that. Jesus, a car is bringing down his property value? He must live somewhere awful. Toxic waste couldn't bring down the high values of property where I live.

-- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

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lab~rat >:-)

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