They still make body parts for GM.
There's no problem with using drive train parts from others. Ford and GM
do that, a lot.
In addition, the dies that they made body parts were worn out. The
design was out-of-date, wasn't aerodynamic and would have to be updated
to meet safety standards. Checker elected not to do that.
The problem that killed the Checker Cab as a production car is that
it costs between $50,000 and $500,000 to make a set of production body
panel or frame rail stamping dies for one panel, and each car model
takes several dozen die sets to produce.
Mass production carmakers can easily spread the tooling costs out
over 100,000 units per year per body style, and the structural
stampings for a common platform are often used for multiple models and
many model years, making them even more economical. And they stamp
and sell replacement panels to the aftermarket for many years using
those same dies.
Checker couldn't spend the big bucks needed (I'm guessing $10
Million minimum) to retool for a new car design to meet the safety
requirements - even if they sold 10,000 cars a year and didn't have to
change the dies again for 12 years or more, they'd still have to
charge double what a Detroit production car would run. And unless
they can promise double the durability, "No Sale".
The only thing that keeps Avanti Motors and other specialty
producers going is the use of fiberglass bodies, because production
molds cost a whole lot less than stamping dies.
--<< Bruce >>--
Not in all major cities. NYC has placed fuel mileage requirements that
are being phased in over the next few years. Currently, the only
vehicles that meet the requirements are hybrids. Obviously, if an
automaker comes out with a suitable vehicle that is not a hybrid that
meets the mileage requirements, that vehicle would be able to be
licensed as a taxi.
Really? Why would one buy a new police car, use it for less than 500
miles, then sell it to a taxi company or owner?
In NYC, there is a requirement that all taxicabs have less less than 500
miles traveled at the time of hack-up.
For reference, see Chapter 3, Taxicab Specs, page 3:
I thought it was a done deal, mostly Escapes and Highlanders, with some
"MAYOR BLOOMBERG ANNOUNCES TAXI FLEET TO BE FULLY HYBRID BY 2012"
"Currently there are only 375 hybrid vehicles in the City's taxi fleet. By
October 2008, the number of hybrids in the fleet will triple. The phase-in
for the City fleet to become completely hybrid is as follows:
October 2008 - 1000 yellow hybrid taxicabs;
October 2009 - 4000 yellow hybrid taxicabs (30% of the fleet)
October 2010 - 7000 yellow hybrid taxicabs (53% of the fleet)
October 2011 - 10000 yellow hybrid taxicabs (76% of the fleet)
October 2012 - all yellow taxicabs will be hybrid (100% of the fleet)
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
Several yeats ago the NYC Taxi Commission allowed mini-vans for three years,
to see if they would hold up as cabs, they did poorly. Why the Mayor thinks
they will do any better today is a mistery
When I was still in the fleet service business, the majority of used police
cars we sold where taken up by cab compaines, particurally by NYC cab
Hybrid Sienna... Hybrid Charger...
Whichever Mfgr that can make a 25mpg hybrid as capable as the current
crown vics is going to dominate that market.
Dodge is way behind on hybrids, Toyota and Honda are by far the most
advanced and numerous. Ford only has the escape, too small for a cab
and not scalable (they had to buy most of their technology from
Toyota, who is in no hurry to help them with anything bigger)
But I digress...
The Japan market Sienna is smaller than the one sold in the U.S. for several
reasons. One big consideration is that vehicle registration fees are
determined by the vehicle's physical size class, in addition to engine
What other type of cabs are there in NYC other than medallion cabs? In
NYC, there are lots of Limos, and they are regulated by the same folks
who regulate the cabs, the taxi and limo commission. The city also
regulates the pedicabs (the pedal-powered tricycles that carry tourists
around) and horse-pulled carriages.
Of course, there are gypsy cabs, but, they are licensed by any one. And
there are cabs from New Jersey and Long Island and other places, but
they don't pick up people in NYC.
You have to consider the source here as this is the same CNW that said that
an H1 would go 379,000 miles on average VS a Prius at 109,000 IIRC. That
study has been thoroughly picked apart already many times.
NEW YORK CITY MEDDALLION TAXICAB BEST CARS ARE THE CROWN VICTORIA FROM A
YEARS VETERAN OF THE NYC YELLOW TAXICAB INDUSTRY OF NEW YORK CITY !!!
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